The money part of firing Rhule

[Moo Daeng]

I don't care about Tepper's money. He might. We will find out how much he cares. He could probably liquidate something and pay him off without flinching if he wanted.

[BIGH2001]

Money is not the problem. It was a stupid mistake to hire Rhule and give him that deal but nonetheless. How can tepper sit down at the end of the season and have rhule convince him that this team is going in the right direction (assuming nothing changes moving forward)?

[SizzleBuzz]

23 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

The amount of money we're talking about amounts to almost nothing in terms of Tepper's net worth.

In fact is amount to EXACTLY "nothing in terms" of Big Dave's bankroll...

...see ya!

[LinvilleGorge]

If things continue like this and Rhule is retained next year, that means that either Tepper values the money he saves by not firing Rhule over winning (yikes!) or he truly believes that Matt Rhule is going to build a winning organization (YIKES!).

[Chiefzack]

45 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

As far as Rhule's contract, it simply shouldn't make a big difference in Tepper's decision making process.  The amount of money we're talking about amounts to almost nothing in terms of Tepper's net worth.

My thing is if he's thinking over whether to give one more year, he might be more willing to pull the trigger easier If he can get out at 50-60%.

This guy uses coupons at fast food restaurants and makes his friends pay for him, don't be quick to assume he's ready to just burn 50 million dollars.

25 million maybe, but 50 million is a $HITTON of money.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

3 minutes ago, Chiefzack said:

My thing is if he's thinking over whether to give one more year, he might be more willing to pull the trigger easier If he can get out at 50-60%.

This guy uses coupons at fast food restaurants and makes his friends pay for him, don't be quick to assume he's ready to just burn 50 million dollars.

25 million maybe, but 50 million is a $HITTON of money.

Perhaps Tepper is that tight with his organization's money.  Guess we'll find out soon enough.  Not much longer until the Panthers season will be coming to an end.  At that point Tepper will have a decision to make when it comes to Rhule.  

[Cdparr7]

I don’t think it’s a money thing as much as it’s a image thing. I don’t think Tepper wants to look stupid and wants to be patient. I think he would spend twice the money today if he knew it was the right choice and wouldn’t get chastised by every talking head on TV that needs something to talk about in the off season.

[Zod]

You all are thinking of it the wrong way.

 

Think of it in terms of net loss.

 

Fire Rhule - Net loss of 50 million

Keep Rhule - loss of fans, merch sales, concessions, appearances, and all the other $$ this team makes for many seasons.

 

I'd wager the second one is more than 50 million. 

 

[Luciu5]

Not really sure why this matters. Even if Rhule is fired this offseason, this thread is irrelevant, imo.

wtfc

[Jens]

16 minutes ago, Zod said:

You all are thinking of it the wrong way.

 

Think of it in terms of net loss.

 

Fire Rhule - Net loss of 50 million

Keep Rhule - loss of fans, merch sales, concessions, appearances, and all the other $$ this team makes for many seasons.

 

I'd wager the second one is more than 50 million. 

For the first season since moving here, I have not attended one single game in person. I have watched all of them on TV though. I think Baylor/Temple college coach Matt Rhule has shown us that he is not ready for the NFL ( neither would I be ). Lets move on and get a NFL worthy coaching staff. The Carolinas deserves it.

 

[Snake]

His contract is brutal and any respectable GM would have balked at it. Either way Tepper just needs to take the spanking and move on. 

[Snake]

50 minutes ago, Zod said:

You all are thinking of it the wrong way.

 

Think of it in terms of net loss.

 

Fire Rhule - Net loss of 50 million

Keep Rhule - loss of fans, merch sales, concessions, appearances, and all the other $$ this team makes for many seasons.

 

I'd wager the second one is more than 50 million. 

 

What Fitters does moving forward is more important. We need talent and franchise players. I'm not really sure how he's going to go get that with Rhule having total control and running a college program. 

[Zaximus]

Tickets and concessions aren't as much as people think actually.  I think average team makes 7 mill from tickets and like 4 to 5 mill on concessions and after expenses is single digit profit.   It's all about profit sharing and TV deals and big corporate sponsers.   Sadly BofA being in a transplant town also means tickets will keep being sold and concessions when we suck. 

Anyway I don't think Tepper bought this franchise to make money.  It's a rich guy hobby.  Retirement.  NFL teams are worth so much now it's not like you can make a ton of profit buying them.  We just have to hope he doesn't get bored and move on lol.  I don't think firing Rhule impacts this guy at all.  He's made more money in the pandemic probably than before. 

[ThPantherFan]

11 hours ago, Chiefzack said:

If Tepper decided to pull the plug after this season, a big consideration is Matt Rhule is due 5 years 100% guaranteed at $10 million... so 50 million

If I'm not mistaken, those buyouts usually don't equal "coach gets a check" there's terms that usually say if terminated, you can accept this lump sum amount or get payments of the remaining balance over 10-12 years, but if you accept payments you cannot accept another job.

 

I'm just wondering if Matt's contract is as iron clad as made out? Usually most coaches don't ever usually get 100% of that guaranteed amount unless they take payments, so they get a lump sum of 50-60%.

I'll take 25 million and pack my bags.