this place is so much more hostile about ruhle than it was for rivera in 2013

[electro's horse]

That team started out 1-3 and there was fuging blood in the water. 

The Panthers had just poo the fuging bed in Arizona coming out of a bye. They beat the hell out of the Cardinals but lost due to a hideous offensive gameplan. 

This was after starting 1-6 the season before, including one of the most gut wrenching regular season losses in team history that involved a 4th and short and a certain undersized safety. 

There were constant threads about firing rivera. 

In retrospect I don't think anyone can say that Rivera didn't come into a better situation. I mean yes he drafted Cam but that was a no brainer, and also a consolation pick. The team was also better when he inherited it, especially what ruhle inherited. 

 

And yet thinks are far more hostile now than they were then. 

So why is that? Obviously this was a decade ago, the internet as a whole had not yet grown as caustic. 

Why is Ruhle different?

Edited December 7, 2021 by electro's horse

[BigCat#1]

Because it's clear rhule is not an nfl head coach

[electro's horse]

4 minutes ago, BigCat#1 said:

Because it's clear rhule is not an nfl head coach

/every thread about rivera in early 2013

[Verge]

Rhule is being so obviously outcoached and has made such putried roster decisions (Trading picks for Sam, extending Robby, Sam's 5th year option, etc) that it feels like a waste if he gets another year. It's not beyond saying that Phil Snow has helped Matt Rhule look a lot better than he is, and he still looks bad.

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

Because during 2013 and early Rivera era, our losses were usually within one score games. We were competing until the end and the team didn't look lost.

With Rhule, we're getting blown out by the Giants and Dolphins...

[Verge]

Biggest issue with Rivera was clock management I think. Neither were/are the correct coach for us. 

[OneBadCat]

It’s worse because this team should be better than where Rivera was at the time. The overall weapons, secondary and pass rush should be on par or better. 

The strong start and collapse is also worse and not indicative of progress. 
 

Rivera basically just relied on Cam to save him once he realized he had an automatic short yardage machine and the GOAT MLB being his on field DC for him. 
 

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by OneBadCat

[45catfan]

Rhule just seems lost and in over his head.  Rivera seemed to come up just short.  While I was pissed at Rivera during that time, I never called for his job.  Rhule should have never left college.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Hurney was part of Rivera's problem/shared blame.

Rhule demanded and was given the keys to the kingdom.

There is no one other than Matt to blame for the team's current situation.

 

[BIGH2001]

Rivera didn’t spend his first two seasons fuging up every personnel decision that he made. And he didn’t mortgage the future on shitty players.

[Moo Daeng]

15 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

That team started out 1-3 and there was fuging blood in the water. 

The Panthers had just poo the fuging bed in Arizona coming out of a bye. They beat the hell out of the Cardinals but lost due to a hideous offensive gameplan. 

This was after starting 1-6 the season before, including one of the most gut wrenching regular season losses in team history that involved a 4th and short and a certain undersized safety. 

There were constant threads about firing rivera. 

In retrospect I don't think anyone can say that Rivera didn't come into a better situation. I mean yes he drafted Cam but that was a no brainer, and also a consolation pick. The team was also better when he inherited it, especially what ruhle inherited. 

 

And yet thinks are far more hostile now than they were then. 

So why is that? Obviously this was a decade ago, the internet as a whole had not yet grown as caustic. 

Why is Ruhle different?

I'm not sure it's as much about football or the situation as it is with people generally being more angry online and wanting a pat on the back for supporting the mob.

 

[45catfan]

Biggest difference: Rivera started out weak and typically finished strong and vying for the playofffs.  Rhule beats a few doormat teams out of the gate and then packs it in for the year while watching other teams leapfrog us into the wildcard race as we look like a fish flopping out of water.

[Shotgun]

20 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

That team started out 1-3 and there was fuging blood in the water. 

The Panthers had just poo the fuging bed in Arizona coming out of a bye. They beat the hell out of the Cardinals but lost due to a hideous offensive gameplan. 

This was after starting 1-6 the season before, including one of the most gut wrenching regular season losses in team history that involved a 4th and short and a certain undersized safety. 

There were constant threads about firing rivera. 

In retrospect I don't think anyone can say that Rivera didn't come into a better situation. I mean yes he drafted Cam but that was a no brainer, and also a consolation pick. The team was also better when he inherited it, especially what ruhle inherited. 

 

And yet thinks are far more hostile now than they were then. 

So why is that? Obviously this was a decade ago, the internet as a whole had not yet grown as caustic. 

Why is Ruhle different?

In Ron's first two years we had a OROY and a DROY….we got anything like that with Rhule?

[Waldo]

Rivera was always his own worst enemy. He went Riverboat to change it up. As fans, that's a realistic hope. It almost worked one year.

There just isn't much positive that Rhule brings to the table. Lack of skill and knowledge make it years to see if he could learn enough to be competitive. His hype is deflating and even  Snow can't prop him up on this level.

Edited December 7, 2021 by Waldo