Urban Meyer Fired

[BurnNChinn]

1 minute ago, 3838 said:

Give me ..

Steve Young

Jerry Rice

Tom Rathman

and the 49ers D of that era (that was handed to George BTW from Walsh)

and even I could "win" FIVE SBs.

Seifert SUCKED

Ok but he’s still better than Rhule. Don’t get what ur arguing here?

[joemac]

1 minute ago, 3838 said:

Give me ..

Steve Young

Jerry Rice

Tom Rathman

and the 49ers D of that era (that was handed to George BTW from Walsh)

and even I could "win" FIVE SBs.

Seifert SUCKED

Only his last season with us (the Chris Weinkie, 1-15 season) was truly terrible.  He had us in playoff contention until the very last week of the season both his first 2 years. 

[Mr. Scot]

37 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

He made a bad hire at OC and has paid for it. The defence has been sensational.

Winning 3 more games is appreciably superior - it's hard to win games in the NFL.

He made bad hires all over because he hired college coaches.

And the defense has been pretty well exposed.

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

You must have really hurt his ego one day…

It's the David Tepper worship.

[3838]

1 minute ago, BurnNChinn said:

Ok but he’s still better than Rhule. Don’t get what ur arguing here?

Not arguing, just disagreeing. As a HC Seifert was terrible. In SF he was handed a championship team when Walsh left, just like Gruden was handed a championship team in TB when Dungy left.

[Wes21]

37 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

True.  Why the 10% "Keep Matt for a third year" crowd doesn't recognize this puzzling. 

If Rhule doesn't pull off 2 to 3 more wins this season, it's a waste of time to keep him.  History suggests that a successful coach will "win" sometime in his first 2 seasons.  It's rare for a coach to open up with 2 bad seasons and "turn it around" after that.

I bring up 2 to 3 more wins because 7-9 seems to be the breaking point.  If a guy can't get the team to at least that record once in his first 2 years...it's probably not going to happen.  Dick Vermiel, Jim Schwartz and Kyle Shanahan are exceptions.  There have been tons of teams who kept guys after 2 bad years and all it did was set them back another year.

[KillaCamNewton]

3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Good quote regarding Meyer. Could arguably also apply to Rhule but my question would be what exactly has Rhule done that he could crow about?

 

I think its telling that the only successful college coach of the last decade (Harbaugh) was also a pro bowl QB. Credibility matters

[ladypanther]

Good summary:

 

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Every minute longer Urban Meyer remained the head coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars only would have added to the damage he wrought over one offseason and 13 games. Jaguars owner Shad Khan did not do the right thing late Wednesday night so much as the only thing. Khan fired Meyer, ending an experiment that set back his franchise, threatened the development of first overall pick Trevor Lawrence and obliterated Meyer’s reputation.

Meyer packed a kaleidoscopic array of controversies, embarrassments and missteps into his 336 days as Jaguars coach. When you hire a strength coach with a history of alleged racist and abusive behavior, sign a 34-year-old minor league baseball washout as a tight end, publicly flirt in a bar with your name on it as a married man, demonstrate an ignorance of which of your players are actually getting in games and kick your kicker, you have covered the bingo card.

 

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Meyer was not prepared for what it took to win in the NFL. It cost the Jaguars their season and cost Meyer his reputation. Eleven months ago, Meyer was a respected television analyst and one of the greatest modern college football coaches. Now he’s the guy who sat on that bar stool in Columbus, the bully who berated his kicker, the dunce who thought Andre Cisco was playing when he wasn’t. Now he’s a punchline.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/12/16/urban-meyer-nfl-failure/

[4Corners]

I’m taking Seifert over Ruhle. Not even close. Seifert has a solid resume. Ruhle looks like he would get outcoached by Mallard Creek. 

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

Meyer was not prepared for what it took to win in the NFL. 

Equally accurate take on Matt Rhule...

[ladypanther]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Equally accurate take on Matt Rhule...

[Waldo]

35 minutes ago, 3838 said:

Not arguing, just disagreeing. As a HC Seifert was terrible. In SF he was handed a championship team when Walsh left, just like Gruden was handed a championship team in TB when Dungy left.

He was an underachiever and overhyped for sure but he had some positives, terrible to me is a smidge too far. Next to Rhule he looks good. 

[Panthera onca]

Seifert is definitely better than Rhule. Seifert is a weird dude in general and I think that after a while the team tuned him out.

[CarolinaRideorDie]

Some coaches are just meant to remain in the college ranks. Nick Saban may be the best college coach but he flunked big time in the NFL. One theme I noticed about college coaches coming to the NFL is that they want all controlling power like how they had it in college. Nick Saban, Chip Kelly, Urban Meyer, Matt Rhule all wanted overriding power in decision making. You can do that in college but not in the NFL.