Does it matter? No, but THE REFS

[Green-Ghost]

1 hour ago, mav1234 said:

Not anymore, no.  Not about the refs specifically, just in general.

Tbh, our team is poorly coached and undisciplined. We don't get calls in our favor because of it.

I think there is a lot of truth to this. I think referees, whether they realize it or not, give the better teams less penalties.

[mav1234]

33 minutes ago, Green-Ghost said:

I think there is a lot of truth to this. I think referees, whether they realize it or not, give the better teams less penalties.

Better coached teams also commit less egregious penalties, probably because coaches teach guys what to do to avoid it being so obviously a penalty in real time.

[SteveSmithTD89]

55 minutes ago, pantherj said:

Yeah the Dallas game when they made their first drive to score they we're holding to open up those massive rushing lanes and nothing was called.

Don't forget the immediate whistle for forward progress on Chinn's obvius Forced Fumble.

[HeatMiser]

only team in the league that doesn't get home cookin'

[Basbear]

Panther-wise this has been the worst reffing season in my viewing history. BY FAR.

Feels like most games have 3 big calls that are total BS go against the Panthers. Plus the 50/50 calls all seem to go against them as well. Refs call the game like they have money on the other team. Never felt this bad, even during the Cam"your're not old enough for that call" trash era.

Edited December 20, 2021 by Basbear

[ichigo1057]

7 hours ago, trueblade said:

You tend to remember the calls that went against you way more than the ones that did. The refs are human and are going to make mistakes. It's likely that over the course of a season the good calls and bad sort of even out.

"Making mistakes" is one thing but that Unsportsman like conduct or Unnecessary roughness call, which ever the hell it was, on our 3rd down stop was absolute horseshit. Hell, I even had Buffalo fans agreeing with me on that one. They straight up took our great stop that would have resulted in a punt and gave them the ball and essentially a 7 point drive. 

Heck if I'm even recalling correctly the former Saint on commentary, Johnathan Vilma, was even saying that was a very ticky tac call.

Edited December 21, 2021 by ichigo1057

[Panthercougar68]

Someone brought it up but that incomplete pass at the end of the first half looked like Allen was down and sacked before he got rid of the ball. They didn’t even give it a second look with a booth review.

[pamlicopanther]

We probably would have been in great shape if we had college level refs

[OldhamA]

8 hours ago, Madwolf said:

Bad officiating is just more apparent the longer you're bad. You just start waiting for the "other shoe to drop" and so every little thing becomes another frustration.

Jimmy Johnson used to talk about how the officials were always out to screw the Canes so you just had to be good enough to take them out of the equation. 

Sadly the Panthers aren't good enough to take the, quite frankly awful, calls out of the equation and it has cost us games. 

[OldhamA]

7 hours ago, pantherj said:

Both Burns shoulders were grabbed from behind and the refs ignored it and he would have had a sack on that play. It was clear as day. Burns got held a few times by their terrible tackle.

The more you throw the more the refs will help your team generally speaking. Running a lot is a sign of a bad QB, boring to casual fans, and punished by refs. We've got to get a QB.

I'd love to have the 49ers O.

It's hilarious watching modern defences get gashed by the run and have no idea how to stop it.

[OldhamA]

6 hours ago, mav1234 said:

Better coached teams also commit less egregious penalties, probably because coaches teach guys what to do to avoid it being so obviously a penalty in real time.

There's no 'better coaching' when you're literally grabbing Reddick and preventing him from making a negative play.

That happened at least twice yesterday - as in blatantly, I wasn't even looking out for it.

 

[Mvp2014]

This year has been different. 

Im fine eith a tightly called game but when thry are killing our drives with phantom holds and roughing that the announcers cant explain while allowing other teams to hold on every play and not get a single call until the game is out of reach in thr 3rd you gotta just give up on the nfl.  its as real as wrestling now.  

[Shufdog]

8 hours ago, trueblade said:

You tend to remember the calls that went against you way more than the ones that did. The refs are human and are going to make mistakes. It's likely that over the course of a season the good calls and bad sort of even out.

Apparently you don't remember the blatant screw job by the officials against the 49ers a few years back.

[Shocker]

Robert Quinn calling out the refs controlling games…glad to see it…

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/32914633/bears-robert-quinn-sounds-officiating-chippy-game-vs-vikings-refs-controlling-game-little-too-much

"Some of these calls are starting to get a little crazy," said pass-rusher Robert Quinn, who earlier Monday was named to his third Pro Bowl. "These refs seem like they're controlling the game a little too much. So, when a play is clean and they're throwing a flag for something that they thought they could change a game [with] just by one flag ... let guys play ball. If this was a couple years ago, half of this stuff wouldn't even be called. But now, they got so many of these stupid rules, they dang near in a ref's hands [and] could change the game in any given moment.

Edited December 21, 2021 by Shocker