Christmas Updates: Tepper—you’re losing fans

[WarPanthers89]

This team isn’t winning any time soon. We are literally stuck in a state of suck the next two years absolute minimum.

[MillionDollarCam]

6 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

So...after Matt Rhule is fired, then

I for one will still watch even if Rhule is the coach but I’d be lying if I didn’t say that my monetary and time investment would be much more than it is currently if he was shown the door.

Tepper’s unwillingness to admit that he made a mistake is similar in fashion to a captain going down with his ship after making a fatal error… I worry that our situation gets worse before it gets better.

Edited December 26, 2021 by MillionDollarCam

[Mr. Scot]

22 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

No owner is this dumb. 

I wouldn't bank on that.

6 hours ago, Fox007 said:

Its from posers who have never actually done so. Its really is hilarious. More entertaining than the Panthers thats for sure.

I'm not gonna criticize someone for not wanting to spend their hard earned money on sh-tty football.

Nobody here owes David Tepper a damn thing.

[Fox007]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I'm not gonna criticize someone for not wanting to spend their hard earned money on sh-tty football.

Nobody here owes David Tepper a damn thing.

It actually does amaze me that this is even a thing that a brain can do. Scientists should really look into it.

 

[Ja Rhule]

Someone on Facebook was offering 6 tickets for free.  Taking free tickets still means you have to spend money on food and drinks and it ain’t cheap.

[MillionDollarCam]

18 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:

Someone on Facebook was offering 6 tickets for free.  Taking free tickets still means you have to spend money on food and drinks and it ain’t cheap.

Factor in parking and travel expenses as well (for those that live in Raleigh, Asheville, Greensboro, Wilmington, etc.).

A Panthers game suddenly turns into a financial burden rather than a fun day with the way they are performing.

I can watch them get murdered perfectly fine from my couch while eating Christmas leftovers.

[bigdog10]

I don’t blame the OP’s dad for selling the PSL’s. They are likely to be obsolete in a few years when Tepper starts the new stadium talk. 
 

With that said, Tepper isn’t losing fans. This is just what happens when you have a lame duck coach with no QB. There’s no interest because the product is bad. Tepper sees that and will likely make changes this off-season, by at least stripping Rhule of his roster control. That likely won’t be enough and Rhule will be fired next year but we will all be back and excited about the direction of the team under the new head coach. 
 

this is no different than 2010 or 2019. 

[SizzleBuzz]

14 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

No owner is this dumb. He wants the team out of Charlotte and killing off the fanbase does it.

"Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep..."

 

Edited December 27, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[SizzleBuzz]

Alternate version :

 

 

[SizzleBuzz]

On 12/26/2021 at 2:49 PM, SizzleBuzz said:

On 12/26/2021 at 2:18 PM, FuFuLamePoo said:

I just don’t like how your family member mentioned sells all their tickets anyways, which probably end up in the hands of fans of opposing teams 

TFB for you

PSL Update:   Date > # of Listings > Total # of Seats Represented

11/7/21 > 640 > 1625

11/8/21 > 646 > 1,642

11/9/21 > 648 > 1,646 (peak)

[Cam Signed]

11/11/21 > 637 > 1,614

11/17/21 > 629 > 1,584

12/3/21 > 617 > 1,529 

12/14/21 > 605 > 1,489

12/26/21 > 603 > 1,490

Of those who are ready to ABANDON SHIP only a microscopic sliver are PSL holders...

...if you happen to be one of those 6 or 8 folks the market is active, might be a good time to sell.

https://panthers.strmarketplace.com/Permanent-Seat-Licenses/For-Sale.aspx

Update:

11/9/21 > 648 > 1,646 (peak)

[Cam Signed]

11/11/21 > 637 > 1,614

11/17/21 > 629 > 1,584

12/3/21 > 617 > 1,529 

12/14/21 > 605 > 1,489

12/26/21 > 603 > 1,490

12/27/21 > 599 > 1,472

12/28/21 > 597 > 1,468

 

Alert!

SELLER'S MARKET!

All the "I'm gone" crowd --- now is a great time to ABANDON SHIP!!

 

Edited December 28, 2021 by SizzleBuzz

[glenwo2]

On 12/25/2021 at 7:33 PM, davos said:

Didn’t want to post on Xmas but this is interesting…

So my pops got PSLs year 1, our name is on the north entry Panther statue, his company on the east. He is officially selling all of his PSLs. The opinion on it is simple:  He thinks they are boring, doesn’t care, and simply doesn’t think we have competent people at the helm. He is simply done. I’m chicago these days, don’t care a ton but love my Panthers from far away.

Tepper is losing the people who helped build this franchise.  Christmas conversations lasted maybe 30 seconds on the team. EVERYONE hates Matt Rhule to the point where they don’t even wanna talk about him. Crap dude with no plan.

Happy Holidays.
 

Tepper's response to the premise of your thread would probably be :

 

At the end of the day, he's a wealthy mofo and that's good enough for him apparently.

It would take the entire fanbase just not buying PSL's or whatever for him to get off his ass and actually do something.   And I don't see THAT happening as there are too many diehards.

Edited December 28, 2021 by glenwo2

[ichigo1057]

On 12/25/2021 at 9:29 PM, MillionDollarCam said:

Spending your Sunday and your hard earned money on a poo product whether it’s a football game, movie, shopping trip, etc. doesn’t make you a good fan or a cool person... it makes you a fugging idiot

While I don't think it's right to condemn the fans who have tuned out as "Not True Fans" I also don't think it's right for you to label all the people who tune into the games as idiots. Personally I watch every game I have the possibility to. If I wasn't watching the Panthers game I'd be watching another game so why not even despite how painful it has been to watch lately.

[Panther'sBigD]

On 12/25/2021 at 7:41 PM, davos said:

Well to be fair, he sells most tix living out of state but they aren’t flying back on the Douglas strip anymore. It’s a big loss

Wait, so you both live out of state, and you sell most of your tickets anyway? So what you're saying is that you're no longer going to be the ones reselling those seats on the secondary market? Not a real compelling argument that the Panthers are actually losing fans in any meaningful way. 

I'd like Matt Rhule replaced as well, but the level of breath-holding and foot-stomping that you guys are doing is silly. Don't take this the wrong way, but no one(decision-makers for the Panthers) cares if you stop reselling those seats, or that American Airlines is losing a few roundtrip CHI-CLT airfares. 

It's almost as silly as those people that write long posts about how they're not going to post on the Huddle anymore. 

It's just a game y'all! It doesn't really matter. 

[MillionDollarCam]

6 minutes ago, ichigo1057 said:

While I don't think it's right to condemn the fans who have tuned out as "Not True Fans" I also don't think it's right for you to label all the people who tune into the games as idiots. Personally I watch every game I have the possibility to. If I wasn't watching the Panthers game I'd be watching another game so why not even despite how painful it has been to watch lately.

I will continue to watch as well, from the comfort of my own home. I’m also intelligent enough to understand that watching from my home is not the equivalent to what the OP’s family had been doing.

The OP’s financial obligations to the Panthers are a lot more hefty than mine. So if the OP decides that he wants to sell his PSL’s then that’s perfectly fine and it doesn’t make him any less of a fan.