McAdoo's x-ray vision for QBs

[ColumbusCounty]

15 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

For who? We benched Sam and the offense looked much worse overall.

No bro. We benched Sam and the offense came to life. Albeit minimal life but better. 

Hell, even Robbie could catch again. 

Dude was on a 20 quarters without a TD streak..that's wild. Amazingly we still beat Atlanta during that span. He did manage to throw 2 his last game though. 

Even if we build the line, they're going to blitz him the entire game. 

Funny thing is, I legitimately thought we fleeced the Jets at one point. I have zero faith in Sam. And when the hits started most of his interceptions were threw when he had time. BUT hey that's our QB. They still believe they can fix him based off his first 3 games. We'll see. 

[ColumbusCounty]

2 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

The most competent coach on the staff and that's embarrassing..

Lol this is actually true ... and sobering. 

[Jackie Lee]

He came in with OBJ the same year, 13th best pass blocking O-line and Eli's arm was still functioning. Much different scenario than what he's walking into here. Eli was good at reading the D pre snap, adjusting, and going through his reads, basically the opposite of Darnold. 

[BrianS]

42 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

For who? We benched Sam and the offense looked much worse overall.

 

The Panthers problem isn't quarterback. Darnold could be a Pro Bowl player with an adequate offensive line. Sam Darnold, Brady, Rodgers, doesn't matter. The Panthers would've been relative garbage with anyone. Add in the fact that McCaffrey was hurt and a dude was calling plays who would be hard pressed to be a Division 2 offensive coordinator.

No.  Darnold is not a Pro Bowl player, regardless of line.  No one has been able to teach Darnold to make decisions more quickly, which is his problem.  The three R's.  Read, Recognize, React.  He's a second slow on that and in the NFL, that's the difference between a Pro Bowl QB and backup.

 

[Growl]

2 minutes ago, BrianS said:

No.  Darnold is not a Pro Bowl player, regardless of line.  No one has been able to teach Darnold to make decisions more quickly, which is his problem.  The three R's.  Read, Recognize, React.  He's a second slow on that and in the NFL, that's the difference between a Pro Bowl QB and backup.

 

that was the same guy who said it was most efficient to take a QB after the 1st round in another thread, I’d disregard

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, BrianS said:

No.  Darnold is not a Pro Bowl player, regardless of line.  No one has been able to teach Darnold to make decisions more quickly, which is his problem.  The three R's.  Read, Recognize, React.  He's a second slow on that and in the NFL, that's the difference between a Pro Bowl QB and backup.

 

At the NFL level it all happens so quickly. The read is presnap. Once the ball is snapped, you basically have a split second to recognize what the D is doing. Everything that happens after that is pure reaction. If you're still thinking it's going to happen too slow.

[TheProcess]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

At the NFL level it all happens so quickly. The read is presnap. Once the ball is snapped, you basically have a split second to recognize what the D is doing. Everything that happens after that is pure reaction. If you're still thinking it's going to happen too slow.

Yes!  Is the Oline a problem? Sure it is, but QB is a bigger problem. If anybody needs proof just look at the Bengals. Their line is just as bad, but the difference is they have Burrow. 

[thennek]

I wonder if McAdoo had been the OC or QB coach last year if he would have been able to convince the decision makers not to trade for Sam and/or the 5th year option.
 

If the Panthers had just rolled with Teddy, this team would be in a much better position right now with both space cap and draft picks (#38 pick for Sam is gone). 

Edited January 22, 2022 by thennek

[Jared Patterson]

49 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Trade down and select Sam Howell.  Spend FA money and rest of draft on OL.  Collect Lombardi 

no

[Catsfan69]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

I'm hoping that McAdoo's hiring leads to Sam's benching to be honest. 

Sam Darnold is a God and you don't have to like him but you better get down on your knees and respect him!

[SmokinwithWilly]

30 minutes ago, BrianS said:

No.  Darnold is not a Pro Bowl player, regardless of line.  No one has been able to teach Darnold to make decisions more quickly, which is his problem.  The three R's.  Read, Recognize, React.  He's a second slow on that and in the NFL, that's the difference between a Pro Bowl QB and backup.

 

Rhule has been terrible at developing any player, not just Darnold. Most players on this team regressed. I think there may have been a window to fix Darnold with competent coaching, but that window is likely closed. Gase was terrible. Rhule has been worse. McAdoo, who knows what he can do, but I hold no illusions he will be able to correct Darnolds flaws. At this point, he's an 18m paperweight. 

[La Pantera]

Idk if anyone actually read what he actually said. He didn't like Sam at pick 3. Because of his mechanics, but that he'd be a good QB. He also said Rosen was the most pro ready in the draft.

[ncfan]

X-ray vision?

didn't he draft Daniel Jones?

[LinvilleGorge]

12 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Rhule has been terrible at developing any player, not just Darnold. Most players on this team regressed. I think there may have been a window to fix Darnold with competent coaching, but that window is likely closed. Gase was terrible. Rhule has been worse. McAdoo, who knows what he can do, but I hold no illusions he will be able to correct Darnolds flaws. At this point, he's an 18m paperweight. 

Truth. Shaq is probably the only guy on the roster who I might honestly argue has improved under Rhule. Everyone else seems to be about the same or worse.