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Jonathan Alexander on Rhule/Fitterer/Morgan, re: roles in roster building

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wasn't Matt Rhule's OL like in the top 10 in terms of most expensive last year in the NFL or something like that?  The one his handpicked QB of Sam Darnold played behind.  Where he threw to the highly paid #1b Robbie Anderson? 

 

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11 minutes ago, CRA said:

wasn't Matt Rhule's OL like in the top 10 in terms of most expensive last year in the NFL or something like that?  The one his handpicked QB of Sam Darnold played behind.  Where he threw to the highly paid #1b Robbie Anderson? 

 

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A franchise QB can make even a bad coaching staff look good.

Matt Rhule needs a generational #1 overall type QB to be anywhere close to successful in the NFL. That is probably why David Tepper seemed so willing to dump an insane amount of resources into trading for Deshaun Watson. Otherwise he will have wasted tens of millions of dollars hiring a wildly unqualified head coach. Talk about egg on your face, no wonder Tepper has hid from the public eye since the season ended.

But the truth is, the Panthers aren't the only team in this boat. There aren't many head coaches in the NFL who can win without a premiere QB.

The Bengals are a prime example. What a difference a healthy Joe Burrow made for a coaching staff that won 6 games the previous two seasons. 

And look at the Cowboys. Dak Prescott is clearly the only reason the Cowboys have any promise at all. The Cowboys sucked without Prescott in 2020. McCarthy's shortcomings are well documented.

And look at the NFL playoffs this season. Except for QBs that Bill Belichick found (Brady and Garropolo), all the QBs who won a playoff game were drafted in the top 10. 

The Panthers were one pick away from picking Justin Herbert. If Rhule had been able to draft Justin Herbert we'd all be singing a very different tune right now. This might have been a playoff team as recently as even 2020, or close to it. Not sure if Rhule would have signed off on the pick because he obviously has no idea how to scout an NFL QB, but the fact remains that a franchise QB cures all ails.

So all that said, the reason Panthers fans all have our pitchforks out is Rhule placed a pretty sizable bet on a known failure in Sam Darnold thinking he'd be able to coach him up. 3 draft picks and a $19m option. That's not peanuts. 

Rhule has one more swing at finding a franchise QB, in one of the weakest QB draft classes since 2013. I think we all know how this is going to play out. 

 

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1 hour ago, Toker Smurf said:

Very discouraging. So, if Rhule thinks trading away all our picks to get Kurt Cousins or Jimmy G will save him, he can do it and nobody can stop him unless Tepper fires him.

Bingo. I will honestly be surprised if Rhule doesn't truly fug us over this offseason trading future assets in a desperately reckless attempt to win now.

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