No more Watson threads. Use this one or one of the other 20 existing ones.

[MHS831]

So are we saying that this is (basically) a 2-horse race?   I really see both sides--not sure what I want, so I can be pretty objective--I HATE the idea of moving into 2022 with Darnold but I hate the idea of giving away half the defense and three firsts for a QB to play behind a soft OL.  If this deal does not get done, it is because Rhule's reputation is poo.

[45catfan]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

OJ was charged. Neither were convicted but Watson wasn't charged.

Excuse me...was charged, but was found not guilty.  The civil portion played out very differently if I remember correctly.

Watson got caught with his pants down...literally, but whether or not his accusers get their justice, who knows? I said earlier some of the women probably piled on for a payday.  How many?  Who knows, but not all of them. 

[CarolinaNCSU]

I mean...what can NO even offer in the way of players? Picks, sure. But what players, that they haven't already restructured contracts for, are realistic options to send to satisfy Houston's demands? 

Watson will want Thomas (can't trade anyway with his dead cap), Kamara, and the OL left intact. Lattimore can't be moved after his restructure. Chauncy Gardner-Johnson the main player in their offer? Davenport & him? 

[joemac]

15 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Has it occurred to anyone that New Orleans is merely driving up the price with no realistic intention of getting Watson?  I mean--the numbers do not add up.  We should sit on the offer and refuse to get played.  Brady re-signs, Tampa Bay is out.  Cousins re-signs--Minnesota out.  New Orleans does not want to see us get a QB---so suddenly they are in? 

I think it is a bluff.

Yeah. Wilson just said that Ryan Ramzyk (sp?) would be included in the deal. However they just restructured his contract and would be on the hook for 37 million in deal cap money this season if they traded him. People are just pulling poo out of their asses now.

[TylerDurden]

9 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

He’s still going on about the Saints. We ain’t getting him

Now that tweet i call BS on.  

I still think NO is the better run franchise so I don't have much hope for us...  but, Michael Thomas factoring into this?  LMFAO.  The Michael Thomas that they've had a tenuous relationship with for the last 3 years or so?  The Michael Thomas who has barely played for the last two years?  GTFOH.

And pair that garbage with the fact that the only thing keeping them afloat the last 10+ years in Sean Payton, just stepped away from the franchise.  Why tf would anyone want to go there?

That reeks of desperation fluff purposely leaked by NO to try to ramp up our offer because they feel inadequate.

[TheCasillas]

Just now, Jesse said:

I agree. He’s doing the Saints bidding to potentially squeeze more out of us. 

the thing about it is though.... this could be just a media game. Our FO has been in lock step with HOU's FO for almost a year now. They have had to of built some sort of professional partnership through all of this. Althgouth its  competitive league, you still avoid back stabbing people. You get recycled each staff cycle, so you need to be smart on how you build relationsships. 

[MHS831]

I would love for all of us to be slamming beers in some pub philosophizing over these conspiracy theories all night.  That would be funny as hell.

[TheCasillas]

1 minute ago, Proudiddy said:

Now that tweet i call BS on.  

I still think NO is the better run franchise so I don't have much hope for us...  but, Michael Thomas factoring into this?  LMFAO.  The Michael Thomas that they've had a tenuous relationship with for the last 3 years or so?  The Michael Thomas who has barely played for the last two years?  GTFOH.

And pair that garbage with the fact that the only thing keeping them afloat the last 10+ years in Sean Payton, just stepped away from the franchise.  Why tf would anyone want to go there?

That reeks of desperation fluff purposely leaked by NO to try to ramp up our offer because they feel inadequate.

its mickey loomis trying to save his job

[WOW!!]

11 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Houston isn’t having him sit another year. They’ll get a great package from the Saints.

Will it be as good as the one we offered? No. But it will still be really good

I would love to know how great that package is .

Late round picks, not to many good players on rookie deals and never being big players in FA because Salary cap is always a issue..

Edited March 14, 2022 by WOW!!

[pantherj]

Just now, Jackie Lee said:

Thomas/Kamara vs Moore/CMC is almost a wash depending on injuries. Saints new HC was a failure and Rhule obviously sucks so who knows. Saints were better overall but they might not be roster wise in like a week. Brainfug

The biggest problems facing the Panthers, aside from QB, were the OC and o-line coach. The o-line learned nothing, and we were visibly out schemed by the time the 3rd quarter rolled around, if not sooner. The OC and o-line coach have been fired, and statistically speaking the odds have to be low that CMC will go down yet again.

Michael Thomas appears to be on the decline, while CMC and DJ are in their prime.

[Chiefzack]

6 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Houston isn’t having him sit another year. They’ll get a great package from the Saints.

Will it be as good as the one we offered? No. But it will still be really good

They don't have to. The Saints have limited cap space and way overpaid Taysom Hill, they will eventually be starved out and move on. Only the Seahawks and Eagles have the capital to pull off a coordinated hold-out against the Panthers for Watson. 

I don't think personally Watson would not waive his no trade clause to go play for New Orleans, I'd say he would more likely do it for Pittsburgh. 

Houston is pissed and will not bend over to Watson, that owner is VERY stubborn. 

#18 and likely #20-32 overall for 2 years and horrible contracts is not making Houston give up on a bigger haul. Keep in mind, people forget, if Watson refuses to play you can't just fake an injury, you have to have a DR diagnose an injury to keep you out... Houston could sue Watson for his signing bonus. The way people feel in that fanbase and organization, some of them are ready to give up any sort of haul just to screw him over.

 

[therealmjl]

Tepper needs to knock Micky Loomis over with a bil 

[Captain Obvious]

He's going to be a Saint. His fans around here will be able to watch him play twice a year.

[Billy Love]

9 minutes ago, Shocker said:

Better massage game in New Orleans or Carolina?  

Jack Shack competition winner would go to New Orleans….I’ve heard!