Darnold outta here?

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

He wants to play….he’s just smart and wants to get paid. He’s gaming the system understanding that if he forces a trade he gets paid. It’s smart. 

We will see if he gets paid. I would be against signing him even as a FA. Trading multiple 1st round picks is a no go for me. But given our current situation I would hope for the best if thats the direction they decide to go.

[joemac]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Much better supporting cast and he's as old as most second year NFL players. He's a literal man playing against boys.

Swap Pickett and Howell and UNC probably wins 3 games and Pickett is a priority UDFA. Real talk.

Hmmmm….that’s easy to say considering we can never test or prove it. 

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

56 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

To get someone to take on Darnold and his contract you'd have to figure the "young player" would need to have pretty significant value 

Why would we contort ourselves to offload a good young player just to get rid of a 1 year, self inflicted contract? It makes no sense unless said young player has not developed as expected and nearing a contract extention so the front office can use the "our hands were tied!"

Goodbye nameless longsnapper! 

[rayzor]

58 minutes ago, Catsfan69 said:

He's our best long term solution

[ickmule]

Can Rhule please resign now ? 

[Catsfan69]

2 minutes ago, rayzor said:

He is and I laid out why. I can't help it if your reading comprehension limits you from understanding why.

[unicar15]

5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

That would be a huge mistake.  If he was going to be franchise defining qb the Cardinals would not trade him for anything.  He's not Mahomes lite, he's a Mahomes wannabe. 

He had the second highest completion % in the league last year. He was 7th in QBR. He was 8th in rating. He accounted for 30Tds. If he does that here and doesn’t turn the ball over we’re in the playoffs and may win the division with our Defense
 

 

[SCO96]

Last year:

1) We had a terrible O-line

2) Our best offensive weapon missed most of the season.

3) Our OC had a predictable scheme that was ridiculed around the league

4) We could not make adjustments that allowed us to score in the 2nd half (especially quarter 3)

5) We received virtually no production at the TE position.

Saying Sam didn't play well is an understatement, but all of the above things are weren't all his fault. Cam and PJ didn't look any better when they were taking snaps. All three had to run for their lives because of our poor pass blocking.

I'll get flamed for this, but if we draft a LT instead of a QB I wouldn't be totally opposed to seeing what Darnold can do in a McAdoo offensive scheme and behind a James Kampen coached O-line. If he sucks (highly likely), then he'll be off the team and allowed to hit the market in 2023. But, what if the light comes on and leads to a ressurection of his almost dead career? I don't think any QB could be fairly judged playing behind the woeful Panther 2022 offensive line.

 

[ncfan]

What’s the point if you’re not even getting anything in return.  Just to get his contract off the books?  
 

What’s the BIG plan with alll this money you’ll be opening up.  After all the big FA’s are off the market?
This smells a stench of the 2010-2018 Browns trading away picks just for someone to take away that bad QB from Denver they paid big $$ for.

 

so why not just keep him.  Bite the bullet and pay him to sit for this 1 year.  And keep your young guys.

 

don’t be that dysfunctional franchise like the Browns 

Edited March 25, 2022 by ncfan

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, joemac said:

Hmmmm….that’s easy to say considering we can never test or prove it. 

But we can. How did he play when he wasn't the oldest guy on the field and wasn't surrounded by an above average veteran team?

Oh wee mayne.

Without an extra year of eligibility, Pickett is entering the draft as a senior coming off a 2400 yard 13 TD 9 INT season. He's going undrafted in last year's draft. Reality.

[TheSpecialJuan]

this thread should not exist there was nothing here in the 1st place 

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

He had the second highest completion % in the league last year. He was 7th in QBR. He was 8th in rating. He accounted for 30Tds. If he does that here and doesn’t turn the ball over we’re in the playoffs and may win the division with our Defense
 

 

And all of that didn't matter when he got rattled in the playoffs and folded like a lawn chair.  Handling pressure is important. 

[joemac]

8 minutes ago, ncfan said:

What’s the point if you’re not even getting anything in return.  Just to get his contract off the books?  
 

What’s the BIG plan with alll this money you’ll be opening up.  After all the big FA’s are off the market?
This smells a stench of the 2010-2018 Browns trading away picks just for someone to take away that bad QB from Denver they paid big $$ for.

 

so why not just keep him.  Bite the bullet and pay him to sit for this 1 year.  And keep your young guys.

 

don’t be that dysfunctional franchise like the Browns 

We’re getting Sam off the team and 19 mil in salary cap room. That’s good enough.

[unicar15]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

And all of that didn't matter when he got rattled in the playoffs and folded like a lawn chair.  Handling pressure is important. 

He’s young. He literally had a better year than Burrow statistically. Put him behind a solid line with CMC as a security blanket and the rest of the team….he’ll roll.