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Another Baker thread? (interview)

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51 minutes ago, top dawg said:

It's better than the other one. He is saying the right things. He seems like a congenial personality. Of course that's easy in July with your new team before training camp, but still. I believe that he's been misunderstood.

 

I'm not sure if that's the case, but I'm willing to give him a chance.

Remember, people outside the Panthers also had very unflattering opinions of CN1 as well, despite all his teammates saying they liked him.  Hopefully that's what we are seeing here as well.

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Baker has had his issues over the years but when you dump the most successful QB you have had in over 20 years for a guy with all those legal issues, you better make Baker look pretty bad or risk alienating your fanbase big time.  He is getting a bad rap even for him.

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24 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Baker has had his issues over the years but when you dump the most successful QB you have had in over 20 years for a guy with all those legal issues, you better make Baker look pretty bad or risk alienating your fanbase big time.  He is getting a bad rap even for him.

That’s what I don’t understand about all the hate.  He helped take the Browns - literally the brunt of all the shitty football team jokes beside the Lions - to the playoffs after going 1-15 and 0-16.  It’s insane.  The dude’s a capable QB which is one of our weakest point right now. We gave up a 4th rounder if he plays 70% of the snaps.  That’s a fine deal

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Ive played xbox with baker a number of times. Hes pretty cool virtually. Still cares about winning more than anything. Even though I'm a nobody I was able to poo on him here and there and he just laughed. I can say some of the stuff I've seen on this message board are from people who have never actually watched any browns games and are blindly believing rumors about him. If you are shocked by his interviews than you really haven't researched him almost at all. Hes pretty charismatic..

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2 hours ago, BrianS said:

I'm not sure if that's the case, but I'm willing to give him a chance.

Remember, people outside the Panthers also had very unflattering opinions of CN1 as well, despite all his teammates saying they liked him.  Hopefully that's what we are seeing here as well.

Very valid point. You would think fans here in the Carolinas would understand that better than anyone. He's here you might as well dig a little and try to gain a better perspective on the situation.

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Here we go. Sure, Baker seems cool and all (like I said: "congenial"), but being cool isn't quite a prerequisite of the job. At the end of the day, he had better be producing at the highest of levels if he plans to talk and taunt, stare down coaches or storm out of pressers. Let your game do the talking! 

Cam owned any perceived social missteps with class, and he let his game do the talking even amid an imperfect situation, valid and invalid criticism. He never ever chose to fan flames intentionally.

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10 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Baker has had his issues over the years but when you dump the most successful QB you have had in over 20 years for a guy with all those legal issues, you better make Baker look pretty bad or risk alienating your fanbase big time.  He is getting a bad rap even for him.

I have two issues with Baker, first, I don’t really see him as a game manager. He’s going to take those risks. Which means he’ll flop or (similarity to a game manager) be surrounded with a good enough team to win.

But unlike a game manager he will lose you games. He will win you games too, but they’ll be messy, require a team, and that may not be enough. Second, the injury for obvious reasons.

This whole idea of a bad personality is overblown just like cam imo. What ironic is it seems to come from our resident cam Stan’s who should seemingly understand. But Baker isn’t cam.

The Browns shafted him (probably blind sided) and then tainted him when he spoke out. For a sexual predator facing suspension. That’s pretty low. All after he took them out of the gutter which was probably extremely hard. You think cam got no thanks send off? This was on another level. Cam has said similar things, even worse things. Who the fug cares.

Now I think he’ll suck but come in and win is all I care about just like with cam, Panthers fans can handle the drama if you ball out….see also Steve smith.

 

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5 hours ago, onmyown said:

I have two issues with Baker, first, I don’t really see him as a game manager. He’s going to take those risks. Which means he’ll flop or (similarity to a game manager) be surrounded with a good enough team to win.

But unlike a game manager he will lose you games. He will win you games too, but they’ll be messy, require a team, and that may not be enough. Second, the injury for obvious reasons.

This whole idea of a bad personality is overblown just like cam imo. What ironic is it seems to come from our resident cam Stan’s who should seemingly understand. But Baker isn’t cam.

The Browns shafted him (probably blind sided) and then tainted him when he spoke out. For a sexual predator facing suspension. That’s pretty low. All after he took them out of the gutter which was probably extremely hard. You think cam got no thanks send off? This was on another level. Cam has said similar things, even worse things. Who the fug cares.

Now I think he’ll suck but come in and win is all I care about just like with cam, Panthers fans can handle the drama if you ball out….see also Steve smith.

 

I agree he got shafted but I think he is more than a game manager. He took Cleveland on his back in 2018 as a rookie and took them from winless in 2017 to 7-9 or almost breakeven. That isn't a game manager but a fiery guy who single handed improved them and everyone around him. And in 2020 took them to the playoffs for the first time since 1994. That isn't a game manager but someone like Cam who carried the team. 

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19 hours ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

 

Not sure if it was posted, but here we go. Really cool down to earth interview wit Charlotte sports live. 

Bu..bu...but Baker is too arrogant for his own good.

The media portrayal of this dude is as bad as it was with Cam. Couldn't be more wrong.

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