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Panthers beat the Saints

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rayzor Grand Master

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2 hours ago, xPariahx said:

you're not a good team if you need players to be hurt to win. We only beat the Saints last year because of Rona virus taking out half their team. Coach's included. LOL

True but typically opposing teams have never cared when they beat us because we were without our best players. You take what you can get, but when you're as bad as we are ...that's all that we can get 

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injuries should not be why we win a game or a win to get happy over good lord

all this is doing is hurting our draft position this team is trash

i mean we are going on five years of losing miserably…haven’t you anti tankers had enough? 

ironically it’s really hard to get on the anti tank, all wins feel good train when you hate losing so much

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Kamara not playing would be a disadvantage for the Saints. Winston's injuries are no an ideal situation either. 

Their defense is still very very stout, their oline is not shabby at all, and they still have Ingram in the backfield, Thomas waiting to catch 15 slants on 17 targets for something absurd like 150 yards. In other words they are still extremely capable of dinking and dunking and power running their way up and down the field to victory.

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48 minutes ago, UnluckyforSome said:

Kamara not playing would be a disadvantage for the Saints. Winston's injuries are no an ideal situation either. 

Their defense is still very very stout, their oline is not shabby at all, and they still have Ingram in the backfield, Thomas waiting to catch 15 slants on 17 targets for something absurd like 150 yards. In other words they are still extremely capable of dinking and dunking and power running their way up and down the field to victory.

I think all our guys will play this week, Kamara and Winston included. Winston shouldn't be as hampered as he was last week if his injury is actually what's being speculated as (transverse fractures) which were the same injuries Cam Newton had after the car wreck in 2014 and Derek Carr had in 2017 (both missed a game but played the following week). It'll be a pain management deal, but he shouldn't be in nearly as much pain as last week.

Defense indeed has been stout (only allowed 3 TD's so far) and should be even better if Adebo returns this week after missing the first 2 games.

Our OL however has been a bit shaky compared to previous years. We've been running the ball well (including pushing around the Bucs' front 7 last week), but pass protection has a lot to be desired allowing 20 pressures on 74 pass attempts (10 sacks, 6 hits, and 4 hurries) through only 2 games. If y'all can generate pressure consistently all game, y'all will likely win with how anemic our offense has been. First one to 10 might win, LOL.

 

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5 hours ago, Iron Saint said:

I think all our guys will play this week, Kamara and Winston included. Winston shouldn't be as hampered as he was last week if his injury is actually what's being speculated as (transverse fractures) which were the same injuries Cam Newton had after the car wreck in 2014 and Derek Carr had in 2017 (both missed a game but played the following week). It'll be a pain management deal, but he shouldn't be in nearly as much pain as last week.

Defense indeed has been stout (only allowed 3 TD's so far) and should be even better if Adebo returns this week after missing the first 2 games.

Our OL however has been a bit shaky compared to previous years. We've been running the ball well (including pushing around the Bucs' front 7 last week), but pass protection has a lot to be desired allowing 20 pressures on 74 pass attempts (10 sacks, 6 hits, and 4 hurries) through only 2 games. If y'all can generate pressure consistently all game, y'all will likely win with how anemic our offense has been. First one to 10 might win, LOL.

 

I think the oline is certainly not as dominant and overwhelming as previous editions. LT has taken a step down, and that's probably reflected in your statement about pass protection. The rookie went down in preseason and Hurst, if that is who ended up at the position, is not Armstead, but overall the line is still good and the interior is strong.

You underestimate the ineptitude and toothlessness of our team at the moment. Thanks for being kind, but as the stat revealed last week, we are 1-25 when allowing a team 17 points. Most NFL teams can score more than 17 points. 

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