Rex critical of Baker

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

And to think that a lot of Huddlers thought that Rhule's handling--mishandling of Matt Corral's development was a reasonable course of action. It wasn't. He never seriously got the kid involved, treating him like an afterthought, and put him behind a sieve of an O-line and said in so many words that Corral had to make lemonade out of lemons. The way Rhule treated Corral was stupid! 

Huddlers took Baker and Corral--in a different way of course--for granted.

At this point, Darnold might give us more spark than Baker, and I never thought that I or anyone would say that. Baker seems smaller, in all respects, than I ever thought was possible.

I don't like the way they handled Corral in the preseason but no matter how they handled him I doubt that would've changed the reality of his durability issues surfacing. The guy is on IR and had durability concerns and no matter how he had been developed during camp he would've probably still ended up hurt. It is what it is.

 

[Davidson Deac II]

6 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

Darnold started hotter than Mayfield and then became so bad, Jimmy Clausen would’ve been better. I guess they average out about even but right now*, I’d pick Baker over Darnold. 
 

*subject to change 

I'd pick Clausen over Darnold.  Or Kyle Allen.  

Or Woodie Allen.  

[TLGPanthersFan]

7 minutes ago, ClawOn said:

His play will improve.

People keep saying that. But I don’t think he is going to magically turn into an elite QB. What we see is what we get. All we can hope for is he is occasionally mediocre. 

Edited September 26, 2022 by TLGPanthersFan

[Davidson Deac II]

9 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

One thing I liked about Baker today was 0 turnovers. 

This game today reminded me of the Eagles game last year.  Defense dominated most of the game but weakened during the fourth.  But we won this one because Darnold wasn't out there throwing it to the other team.  

[OneBadCat]

5 hours ago, top dawg said:

I mean, Rex isn't wrong. 

I'm going to be honest: I thought Baker would be better. I expected him to be at least a competent game manager, but he looks lost out there. All of the criticisms of Mayfield like his spotty accuracy (particularly on those midrange second level passes), and his inability to read the entire field (as was basically suggested by Kurt Warner when he said Baker is best when he only has to read half the field), have been on full display. Add in his timing issues, failure to step into the pocket, what I'll call inefficient mobility, and his lackluster athleticism, and I just don't see him being anyone's answer at starting QB. And, honestly, he hasn't shown to be worth the conditional draft pick that we'd have to give up if he reaches whatever threshold of snaps he has to meet. He's playing uninspired football, and I don't even know if he has the ability to put a team on his back (he surely hasn't shown it against what in reality are suspect teams, and I doubt that he will against top tier teams). He's been horrible to be honest. No swag whatsoever. He just looks bewildered. I really wouldn't have believed that he'd be this bad if you'd have asked me a month ago. He isn't our answer. 

He’s still better than Sam “Try my best then still the throw an INT, then piss my pants” Darnold.

[rippadonn]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't like the way they handled Corral in the preseason but no matter how they handled him I doubt that would've changed the reality of his durability issues surfacing. The guy is on IR and had durability concerns and no matter how he had been developed during camp he would've probably still ended up hurt. It is what it is.

 

I don't see how Baker or Sam wouldn't have been hurt behind Rhules third stringers. PJ got twisted up pretty badly behind those guys too. It's a wonder he wasn't injured.

This is what happens when you have a coach that doesn't know what NFL talent looks like, you get a bunch of guys who are getting pushed around not just on third team but first team too.

[rippadonn]

There will need to be some serious evaluation of the roster after Rhule is inevitably let go. 

I'd be surprised if the next coach could salvage even half this roster.

[AggieLean]

Baker isn’t that guy. There isn’t a QB on the roster that could be a franchise QB.

Time to get one in the draft. You let Baker walk after this season.

[rippadonn]

Steve Smith was right and shouldn't have retracted his statements he previously made about Baker.

Correct is correct. 

You were right #89! Tell Tepper to clean that wax out of his ears.

[ncsdawg]

12 hours ago, top dawg said:

His stats pretty much sucked, even with the big catch and run from Shenault. I just don't see what you saw. It was a bad performance with no redeemable value. The only real plus is that he didn't throw an interception (which is kind of a low bar that was set up by Darnold's suckage last season).

Maybe interpret it as at the start of the game Baker was awful, then after he got clobbered the one time he was a little less awful.  From watching him last year I think that second shoulder separation was big psychologically.  But, he has to overcome it and start slinging it again and soon or his NFL career is done.   

[trueblade]

60.8% of our passing yards came on one play...

60%!!

 

[top dawg]

3 hours ago, ncsdawg said:

From watching him last year I think that second shoulder separation was big psychologically.  But, he has to overcome it and start slinging it again and soon or his NFL career is done.   

That's a different angle that I have never thought about, so kudos to you for the food for thought. 

I'm going to take it a step further: maybe it's not just a psychological thing; perhaps Baker's shoulder injury, non-throwing shoulder or not has had an irreparable effect upon the way he throws the ball--in other words, his accuracy. Perhaps farfetched, but maybe not. In any event, the injury could be in his head as you suggested, which for all intents and purposes may lead to the same lack of good results.

[3838]

19 hours ago, HPPantherzfan said:

Rex has always been critical of Baker and probably for good reason 

Jerry Glanville traded Brett Farve, saying " he'll never make it in this league"

 

[Ted Ginn Jr.'s Hands]

I was expecting that he'd at least be better than Mariota and Geno Smith.  He hasn't even cleared that bar.  Admittedly, those guys have been better than expected so far this season.  He has been missing throws that NFL journeymen should make, I am starting to think that his arm is just shot at this point.