Tanking does not guarantee a good QB

[Rags]

6 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Some of y’all I swear. Point of the whole thread is just go try to win. 

Then say that lmao, that still doesn't control the fact that our offense is poo and most of us fabs know that while these players are going to play to win, long term it's best for the Panthers to try to hit on a 1st round QB plain and simple.

We're not seriously going to compete without an above average signal caller in the backfield. The NFL has proven this time and time again. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

22 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

At some point we really need to draft a QB. Most starters are first round picks. So we likely need to get our guy there. It doesn’t have to be the top pick, but we need to find a solution via the draft.

Logical.  

College play can really over/under emphasize the ability of a player.  You see it every year.  2022 the best QB in that draft just might be Bailey Zappe.  

 

[DaveThePanther2008]

19 minutes ago, Rags said:

That's literally one draft class, and lbr that's only because Fields and Jones were left. I love Horn but it'd be stupid to take him if Lawrence or Wilson were on the board given what we had at QB.

It's not even just the fact that "Haha QB if you get the #1 pick", even last year i'd say take Hutchins or trade down if we had #1 even with all our QB problems, but the fact that it is literally our weakest position and there's good prospects thereat the top of the draft.

I agree, at that point if we had Wilson or Lawrence at our pick it would have been insane not to take them.  That said, how many of huddlers would be screaming bust on either of them.  I say the book is still out on both.  I've seen Lawrence make some sweet throws and than just throw a terrible Int.   Same with Wilson.

[Panthers Fan 69]

16 minutes ago, Rags said:

Then say that lmao, that still doesn't control the fact that our offense is poo and most of us fabs know that while these players are going to play to win, long term it's best for the Panthers to try to hit on a 1st round QB plain and simple.

We're not seriously going to compete without an above average signal caller in the backfield. The NFL has proven this time and time again. 

I did 

[WUnderhill]

Nothing guarantees anything, here’s some actual data.

# of super bowl winning QBs by pick in the past 20 years:

#1 - 3 Super Bowl Winning QBs

#10 - 1

#11 - 1

#18 - 1

#24 - 1

#32 - 1

#75 - 1

#88 - 1

#199 - 1

#227 - 1

The #1 pick has produced 3x more Super Bowl winning QBs than any other individual pick. Additionally, 3 other #1 overall picks, a #2 overall pick, and a #3 overall pick all played in Super Bowls over that same period and lost. 10 of the past 20 Super Bowls have featured at least one QB picked in the top 3 overall picks.

[JawnyBlaze]

I mean, most of the best QBs did go high. Mahommes, Allen, Herbert, Burrow. Murray and Stafford haven’t been great so far but they’re good QBs who were drafted high. Watson on the field is good, drafted high. Only a few of the really good ones were drafted outside the first round. 

[Ivan The Awesome]

31 minutes ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Some of y’all I swear. Point of the whole thread is just go try to win. 

What the fug do you think they've been trying to do this whole time? 

[DaveThePanther2008]

10 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Nothing guarantees anything, here’s some actual data.

# of super bowl winning QBs by pick in the past 20 years:

#10 - 1

#11 - 1

#18 - 1

#24 - 1

#32 - 1

 

In these drafts how many QBs were selected before that winning QB?

[WestPanthers]

If you don't like the QBs class then you have chips on your hand to trade back and get a few picks.

[YourLastThought]

I like blueberry pancakes Yum!

[Jackie Lee]

25 minutes ago, WestPanthers said:

If you don't like the QBs class then you have chips on your hand to trade back and get a few picks.

You can't always trade back just because you want to. This isn't looking like a draft where teams are going to be eager to move into the top 10 

[onmyown]

The Panthers options:

draft elite talent and hire competent staff to give best chance of success 

or

pick up an unwanted FA QB that has had little mediocrity play that no one else wants and hope they turn out

newsflash: option 2 is what we have been doing. historically it doesn’t usually work out and it didn't here either

newsflash #2: a worthwhile FA qb with options will turn this dumpster fire down. It’s already happened. Even coaches it’s happened lol they aren’t playing here, why would they?

soooo yea just what exactly is the plan to find a franchise QB? What is the Panther’s best chance?

or better question, why is this so hard to understand?

[Jackie Lee]

Bryce Young would have to go on IR after playing for either of these Thursday night teams. That leaves Stroud and a bunch of guys that are probably 2nd/3rd round backup/project guys. Seems like more of a depth draft in general rather than a big impact player one. 

[NJPanthers12]

3 hours ago, Panthers Fan 69 said:

Most QBs taken high in the last 10 years have been busts. Just play for the wins. 

Ok cool great point. Let’s continue to win meaningless games and keep rolling out the bridgewaters, darnolds, mayfields, walkers of the world. I can tell you what that’ll guarantee.