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PJ Haters. Put some respect on his name.

TylerDurden

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2 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

PJ, Corral, and rookie?  We definitely need a vet QB to help with our rookie.  Can PJ be that guy?

No, unfortunately.  That's the reason the next HC hire is so crucial.  I like Wilks, but it needs to be a offensive minded dude with a background in developing QBs.  However, I do not want to sign a wet nurse either.  Waste of money and roster space.

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5 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

PJ, Corral, and rookie?  We definitely need a vet QB to help with our rookie.  Can PJ be that guy?

No.

PJ is one of those guys who can keep both teams in the game.

He’s certainly capable of big plays, but in between those big plays are a lot of average to bad ones.

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I will say that pass to DJ was a beauty but I cannot stress enough how this is just more of the same turd polishing we have done with every other QB since Kyle Allen. If anything that play should be indicative of what we should be expecting more often if we didn't have a QB who wasted drives for 3 quarters and threw touchdowns for the other team.

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5 minutes ago, frankw said:

I will say that pass to DJ was a beauty but I cannot stress enough how this is just more of the same turd polishing we have done with every other QB since Kyle Allen. If anything that play should be indicative of what we should be expecting more often if we didn't have a QB who wasted drives for 3 quarters and threw touchdowns for the other team.

Nah, not from me.  I never believed in Kyle Allen.  Nor many if any of the other guys since Cam started breaking down.

And I'm not even saying PJ is a starter or long term answer.  I'm just saying I appreciate him and love the dog he has in him.  And despite all of the odds he has overcome, and even the fact people are shitting on him for finding himself in this position, as an undrafted guy who was an afterthought is crazy.  He still has a winning record as a starter.  It reminds me a lot of Jake...  also in how he has some mind-boggling negative plays and then comes back and does poo like that 70-yards-in-the-air bomb to DJ.  If it isn't anything else, it's fun.  

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    • LinvilleGorge
      2027: Sharing my thoughts on the cap without a lotta research

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      Rookie season being key to uour argument. I didn't at all mislead about the talent Cam had to work with. Kalil was a great center. Olsen was a great TE. Our WRs were probably the worst in the league. Cam still won MVP, we went 15-1, and we went to the SB. Your attempt to bring up Cam to defend Bryce is desperate and clownish. Bryce has more talent to work with and has done WAY less.
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