Rams Offering Two (Future) Firsts for Burns

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

Wanna know something scarier than Halloween? This pass rush and defense without Brian Burns. 

We were able to rent a better pass rusher last season.  

I want a legit rebuild.  And that starts on offense.  It's an offensive league.  Get a QB.  Get him crazy weapons.  Once you have that, you can put together a defense good enough to contend IMO.  Because it doesn't have to be a great D if you have a great O. 

[CRA]

2 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

Not about being on a run, you don't trade our best defensive player for picks 2 and 3 years away, that is foolish and short-sighted. 

If it was a 22', and 23' plus ''sweeteners'' you could consider it, but to trade one of the better young pass rushers for picks 2 and 3 years away is some Madden type non-sense.  

Burns is by default the best players because we don't have a dominant defensive player though. 

Make a list of great defensive players Carolina has had.  Where is Burns. 

[joemac]

28 minutes ago, OnlyPantherFaninMaine said:

 

Burns is good and all, but are we really prepared to pay him 20-25 mil a year going forward for 9 or 10 sacks a year, and backbreaking whiffs and misses?

[Panther'sBigD]

Just now, CRA said:

We were able to rent a better pass rusher last season.  

I want a legit rebuild.  And that starts on offense.  It's an offensive league.  Get a QB.  Get him crazy weapons.  Once you have that, you can put together a defense good enough to contend IMO.  Because it doesn't have to be a great D if you have a great O. 

"Blow the team up, get a QB and give him crazy weapons! It's as simple as that!" LMAO You guys play too much Madden. 

[mrcompletely11]

You have to make this trade.  The Rams could be one of the worst teams in the league in 2 years

[amcoolio]

On the fence. I would take 2 firsts for Burns for sure, but I'd rather one be next year's draft, not have to wait that long.

[joemac]

18 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

You don't take future 1sts in 24, and 25 for a Star caliber player that is ascending. Some of ya'll make no sense at all pass rush is a PREMIUM it's why they're willing to part with the 1st's in the first place. 

If you are gonna even consider the trade it can't be from a team that is likely to make the playoffs both of those seasons. Then you're trading our best pass rusher for some guys in the mid 20's....

You can trade a CMC, as paying a running back 19M-21M on avg is INSANE. That money, or that caliber of money is reserved for PREMIUM positions. 

QB / T / EDGE / WR / DB

 

The only problem with that is, that no team not in the playoff/Super Bowl picture is going to part with 2 future 1sts, because they are also rebuilding.  It would have to be a contender to make this type of deal, because those are the teams who feel they are one piece like Burns away from winning it all. 

[pantherj]

2 minutes ago, SetfreexX said:

Not about being on a run, you don't trade our best defensive player for picks 2 and 3 years away, that is foolish and short-sighted. 

If it was a 22', and 23' plus ''sweeteners'' you could consider it, but to trade one of the better young pass rushers for picks 2 and 3 years away is some Madden type non-sense.  

You have to think about the time frame for when we'll have a franchise QB with experience. That is the opposite of short sighted. This season is lost. Next season, even if we draft a rookie QB, is lost. Guess what comes after that?

I would trade him in a heartbeat.

[pantherj]

Just now, Pakmeng said:

I'm not going to get upset either way. But it's obviously the future aspect that makes it less appealing.

All we have is the future. That's it. We don't have a present. We have 2 wins. Not many more wins are coming.

[Jmac]

Probably going to deal him if Rams sweeten deal with a 3rd this year. Draft a run stuffing DE with wheels....they can be found in the 2nd or 3rd round. Rookie contract is a plus.

[electro's horse]

I would have passed on that, personally. 

[UNCrules2187]

If the firsts were in 2023 and 2024, I think Carolina probably takes this deal. Being in 2024 and 2025 makes it tougher because there's no guarantee the current GM and whoever is the new coach would be making that 2025 pick.

Edited November 1, 2022 by UNCrules2187

[OnlyPantherFaninMaine]

4 minutes ago, CRA said:

We were able to rent a better pass rusher last season.  

I want a legit rebuild.  And that starts on offense.  It's an offensive league.  Get a QB.  Get him crazy weapons.  Once you have that, you can put together a defense good enough to contend IMO.  Because it doesn't have to be a great D if you have a great O. 

By declining this trade it indicates Fitterer, Morgan, and Co. feel this team doesn’t need a full rebuild. This division will be up for grabs starting this year and well beyond because nobody has their QB of the future. I don’t want to waste years attempting a rebuild when we could be competing in the NFC with a great young QB and the right coaching hire. 
 

If you trade Burns now you may as well trade Moore, Chinn, Brown as well. What message does that send the rest of the guys in that locker room? No star player here is going to willingly suffer through years of rebuilding. The much quicker, sustainable, and likely path to success of this team is nailing the QB selection and hiring the right coach. 

[Riverboat Ron]

2068 and 2069 1st rounders.