Land For Sale

[saX man]

The structural rework involved in converting to a dome and the resulting renovation work ends up being more of an issue than just building a new place.  You can't just plop on a roof people.

 

[PNW_PantherMan]

6 minutes ago, saX man said:

The structural rework involved in converting to a dome and the resulting renovation work ends up being more of an issue than just building a new place.  You can't just plop on a roof people.

 

We don't need a roof lol

[Carl Spackler]

"at least we're not owned by David Tepper" is the new "at least we're not owned by Dan Snyder"

[4Corners]

I was at the stadium for a preseason game with my kids after not being there in 4 years. The stadium is great and there is no need for a new one. 

[joemac]

27 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Go back to grass with a retractable roof to let the rain and sunshine in. 

Natural grass and a top at BofA as well as adding ANOTHER hotel or two/three on Morehead/practice facility could make Charlotte all of a sudden able to meet SB "criteria".

Yeah I don't think a dome is at all necessary.  I happen to love the location of the stadium and the skyline that you can see at the games.  Its awesome. They could rig up something like they did in Miami though I guess.

[joemac]

22 minutes ago, saX man said:

The structural rework involved in converting to a dome and the resulting renovation work ends up being more of an issue than just building a new place.  You can't just plop on a roof people.

 

I mean, you CAN - doesn't mean that its a good idea though

https://shamrockroofer.com/the-inside-scoop-on-the-hard-rock-stadium-roof/

[amcoolio]

6 minutes ago, Carl Spackler said:

"at least we're not owned by David Tepper" is the new "at least we're not owned by Dan Snyder"

No it isn't. Nobody thinks this outside of the malcontents on this website.

[t96]

1 minute ago, amcoolio said:

No it isn't. Nobody thinks this outside of the malcontents on this website.

There have been plenty of national people commenting on how bad of shape this team has been in since Tepper bought it. 

[Tbe]

A stadium isn’t needed right now, but if Tepper doesn’t buy this land now someone else will and then where will he put it in the future? He can’t go to Rockhill anymore.

Not that they can do anything about it, but I’m sure the city won’t be too happy with Tepper if this land stays empty for 10 years.

 

[Carl Spackler]

1 hour ago, amcoolio said:

No it isn't. Nobody thinks this outside of the malcontents on this website.

Literally got called "the most down-bad franchise in pro sports" yesterday, my guy

[Sgt Schultz]

If they started work today from square one, it would probably take at least five years before the stadium opened.  The actual construction generally takes two or three years, and that is after site prep.  Then there is bribing the local officials and regulators, fighting off the environmental impact of wiping out the habitat of native rats and mosquitos, etc.

So, the real question is not whether BofA is fine now, but what will it be like in ten years or more?  That's about the window that needs to be considered.

FWIW, the Waltons are reportedly interested in replacing Empower (Mile High) Field already.  Not sure how serious they are, but owners wanting a new stadium is pretty much a rite of passage.

[saX man]

1 hour ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

We don't need a roof lol

Those comments always crack me up.  

An interesting path forward (if they go for a new stadium) is putting out an RFP for a strategic downscaling of BoFa to become MLS & venue centric. Instead of an eventual tear down, would love to see some modernization that brings it more to city level and integrates it with more park and plaza space.  In the greater context, it could really thread the bball park to this new site and that Brooklyn Village project.  Could see some pretty cool things in that respect, the city needs better urban space.

[LinvilleGorge]

The only issue with the current stadium is that we live in a society that views everything as disposable. If it's more than a few years old we need a shiny new one.

My primary vehicle that I drive everyday is actually a year older than BOA.

[saX man]

11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

The only issue with the current stadium is that we live in a society that views everything as disposable. If it's more than a few years old we need a shiny new one.

My primary vehicle that I drive everyday is actually a year older than BOA.

30 years is the typical benchmark that's reducing and the diminishing shelf life has a lot to do with other factors including how crazy potential upgrade costs have become. See: Titans.  

In addition, many of the builds in the 80s-90s weren't part of strategic urban infill and larger development projects that you see today.  It unfortunately ends up costing taxpayers but it just is what's happening; that's the reality.  The plus--if these don't become cringe franchise-soaked districts, they could become pretty cool spots in their respective cities.

A factor with BoFa is that it's been consistently upgraded and between Richardson & Tepper, has had $250 mil in reno costs thrown at it.  It may be worth downscaling and keeping rather than demoing.  And that process would likely be a later phase of a larger development plan that you could probably map out from the foundry's SW extent to the Duke Energy building.