The best Defense in the NFL is……

[KaseKlosed]

Since Wilks is the coach ppl will shurg it off. This fanbase is unbelievable. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Snake]

It's not a shock. We have good weapons on defense. 

[Mage]

13 hours ago, ncfan said:

Yeah that same defense.  That would’ve never been in that situation had they kicked the FG or hadn’t attempted 4 consecutive passes down on the goal line coming up with 0 points

Mind-boggling play-calling.

[mav1234]

12 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

I believe garbage time is classified as final 8 minutes of the 4th quarter and 3 possesion+ score difference

The figure seems to suggest it is when a game is between win probability of 20 and 80% for either team.

(in this case, not in general usage obviously)

Edited December 13, 2022 by mav1234

[JawnyBlaze]

Yea the Bengals game was an embarrassment but that’s included in the calculation. The defense really is that good. It’s stacked with really good to great players. It’s so good that it’s still the best within these parameters even factoring in a few shitty performances.  They’ve still got some room to grow, and part of those good performances is how weak our schedule has been this year, but to have a defense as young as ours is and performing at the level they are, the future is bright. 

[JawnyBlaze]

(Fwiw I think those EPA/play numbers are supposed to factor in quality of opponent as well)

[mav1234]

Depending on where the win probability is sourced from, it may only include the first few minutes of the Bengals game, as our win probability tanked to less than 20% after the first drive, which would make the vast majority of that game be excluded. 

[KSpan]

2 hours ago, KaseKlosed said:

Since Wilks is the coach ppl will shurg it off. This fanbase is unbelievable. 

What are you talking about?

[1of10Charnatives]

I agree that even though this makes our D look good, it just sounds fishy to anyone who's watched the team all year. Bengals and 49ers games do actually count, and the D looked awful in both. Our D is strong, but if it's the best in the league right now, then the league has gotten pretty weak on D overnight.

[BrianS]

Garbage time in this case is being classified as having either less than 20% chance of winning or greater than 80% chance of winning.  Effectively when the game is out of reach for either team.  It's a completely pointless stat.  It could exclude drives in the second quarter of games for example if you happen to be down (or up) by 21 points.

In the NFL, when it comes to defense, there is really only one stat that matters:  Scoring.  We are middle of the pack right now in that category, 13th.  Somewhat interestingly, we are a top 10 defense at home, and a bottom 5 defense away from home.  This feels about right to me.

We have some pieces, but we need to put them together.  We also need an offense that can give a good defense some time to rest.  We're doing better lately.

[Tr3ach]

On 12/12/2022 at 10:53 AM, 45catfan said:

If it weren't for the Bengals debacle, it probably would look even better.

Most likely the bengals game was thrown out almost entirely.  Win probability doesnt start at 50% if a good team is going against a bad team and it doesnt count any plays after probability is 80% to lose or 20% to win or whatever so after we went down a td or so the rest of that game was probably thrown out entirely lol

[trueblade]

18 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

Most likely the bengals game was thrown out almost entirely.  Win probability doesnt start at 50% if a good team is going against a bad team and it doesnt count any plays after probability is 80% to lose or 20% to win or whatever so after we went down a td or so the rest of that game was probably thrown out entirely lol

Looks like it was 75% for the Bengals pretty much from the kickoff.

[KatsAzz]

I am not sure were the Panthers defense is ranked but i do know it has improved to the point it is very good and is young enough to get even better.

[KSpan]

So if you remove the parts where defenses have likely already sucked, the defenses sucks less. Alrighty.

Edited December 13, 2022 by KSpan