Steichen as HC

[Pazhoosier89]

Let's see what Ben Johnson does against us this week. He's another offensive mind I would seriously consider. 

[Panthercougar68]

Give me someone that players will listen to as opposed to someone who can draw up good plays but won’t be listened to.

If Steichen, Johnson, who ever can do both then so be it but my biggest fear is another Stefanski or Chud. 

[BrianS]

When you're talking about Steichen vs Johnson, I'll take Steichen all day long.  Look at who these guys have each worked for. 

With Steichen you get:

With Johnson you get:

 

[Panther53521]

Super Bowls used to be won by defense, that has changed now. Offensive head coach is the way to go now.

Panthers have always had defensive head coaches and never had back to back winning records.

If you have a good QB that can carry the team, then yes, a defensive coach might help. But we need someone to teach a rookie how to play in the NFL and will not get a head coach job somewhere else.

[SteveSmithTD89]

26 minutes ago, BrianS said:

When you're talking about Steichen vs Johnson, I'll take Steichen all day long.  Look at who these guys have each worked for. 

With Steichen you get:

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With Johnson you get:

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Idk man... looks like Johnson has a ton of first hand experience seeing how NOT to run a team lol.

[UNCrules2187]

 

[Waldo]

We have seen leader of men fail on gamedays too often here. We saw the dud of what a nonleader and nonstrategy looks like in Rhule. Taking a shot on an offinsive candidate is the best case scenario for us. There are no guarantees but I can't muster anymore cares for leaders of men who are just bad at strategy.

Steichen, find a new bridge QB, draft a project QB in the first or DE with trade up for a project QB. Not sure on FA or DC. I wouldn't mind a move to 3-4 but I'm not thrilled about a huge contract for Burns and staying in 4-3 unless we bring in a really good strongside DE to pair, it's not on the roster yet.

[ClawOn]

Gotta say I'm a bit uncertain after the clamor for Hackett last off season 

[Waldo]

3 minutes ago, ClawOn said:

Gotta say I'm a bit uncertain after the clamor for Hackett last off season 

Anyone we bring in has a chace of failure, it's unavoidable. I would feel a lot more comfortable if we could figure out how it went so bad so fast up there.

Do not let a first year crew do a mega trade is the one lesson I can clearly see. The risk is way too high and I'm not certain they can recover from that move now.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

Nice to see more and more people hopping on the Steichen Wagon. He's been my number 1 guy all season. He has helped brought up two of the best young QBs (Herbert and Hurts) and has crafted two totally unique offenses to suite their strengths.

[poorboysrev]

10 minutes ago, ClawOn said:

Gotta say I'm a bit uncertain after the clamor for Hackett last off season 

Right…but similar situation to Adam Gase, they both worked with hall of fame QBs…I’d be wary of that. Steichen’s working with Hurts(who had a Josh Allenish type development) and Johnson with Goff has had Detroit’s offense going. Both are pretty impressive feats

[CPcavedweller]

11 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

After the debacle on Sunday, I am ready to move on to a totally different regime.  My first choice is Shane Steichen. 

He has excelled with Hurts as QB.  A very mobile Cam like QB.  Big, Strong and an added weapon in the running game.

I would imagine he would improve our current WR group making them from average to an above average group. 

I would also think that he would probably want Minshew to come along because he knows the offense which would be a plus while we get our new QB up to speed.  

So let's say Tepper gets him as our Head Coach. 

What is your first free agent move?

Who is your first pick? 

Do you go TE and run with who we have on the roster, or do you reach for a Hurts like QB like Richardson at 8 (supposing that we remain at 8)? 

Who does he bring in as a Defensive Coordinator?

He has had one good year with a unicorn of a QB, and you want to make him a head coach with Gardner Minshew...Matt Corral (may be good)....Darnold....Tommy Tremble....and Ian THomas..

LMAOOOOOOOORJWFEWFJEWOFNJEWdf

JUST STOP ALREADY

Keep Wilks, let Wilks bring in his own guys, draft Mayer in the 1st and Jalin Hyatt in the 2nd. Keep Corral and Darnold, try to give Corral all the snaps you can in the off-season to get him ready to go as he has every physical tool you could want; Rhule's little project just didn't get him the reps.

You pair Mayer, Hyatt, Marshall, and Moore together to go with a power run game and a guy who can manage the RPO like Corral with his quick (fastest in the NFL) release, you have a recipe for success on offense. You have the option really to run a Shanahan type offense with those personnel on offense and I'm HERE FOR IT.

[Sean Payton's Vicodin]

2 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

He has had one good year with a unicorn of a QB, and you want to make him a head coach with Gardner Minshew...Matt Corral (may be good)....Darnold....Tommy Tremble....and Ian THomas..

LMAOOOOOOOORJWFEWFJEWOFNJEWdf

JUST STOP ALREADY

Keep Wilks, let Wilks bring in his own guys, draft Mayer in the 1st and Jalin Hyatt in the 2nd. Keep Corral and Darnold, try to give Corral all the snaps you can in the off-season to get him ready to go as he has every physical tool you could want; Rhule's little project just didn't get him the reps.

You pair Mayer, Hyatt, Marshall, and Moore together to go with a power run game and a guy who can manage the RPO like Corral with his quick (fastest in the NFL) release, you have a recipe for success on offense. You have the option really to run a Shanahan type offense with those personnel on offense and I'm HERE FOR IT.

that sounds like an excellent plan to win 7-8 games every season. congrats to staying true to the panthers way

[Byrdman4real]

2 minutes ago, Sean Payton's Vicodin said:

that sounds like an excellent plan to win 7-8 games every season. congrats to staying true to the panthers way

Exactly