Jump to content
  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

MMQB: Breer on Wilks/potential OC candidate


*FreeFua*
 Share

Recommended Posts

32 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think we'll probably find out. He'll get another shot.

I meant more so specifically with us that first year. We had the personnel to do what Brady wanted with two gloves at QB. OL was the glaring offensive weakness that year 

  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I'm honestly not sure if it's even fair to classify Joe Brady as a failure. I mean, just look at our offense now post-Rhule. Safe to say in retrospect that Rhule was probably heavily meddling in Brady's offense.

It also helps to have an actually NFL experienced person getting gameplans together every week.

Rhule's gameplans probably featured "need to maintain synergy" or "stay committed to The Process.

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 1
  • The D 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Full context of Breer's answer below. Honestly, Johnson's name is just kind of a throw in at the end.

From Pete Crespo (@Petedelaware1): Hey Albert, Wilks has the @Panthers playing very competitive ball with limited production from the QB spot. Does he have a real chance to keep this job? Do you see them address the QB in FA since they are a team that can win now, or grab a new franchise QB in the draft?

Pete, I’m starting to think Wilks has a very legitimate chance to keep the Panthers’ job, build a staff of his own and get a real shot this time at being an NFL head coach. Owner David Tepper is well aware of the job that Wilks has done in uniting the locker room and building a real identity for the team—Carolina’s run game has emerged as one of the NFL’s best over the past two months, and did it after Christian McCaffrey was traded to the 49ers. And the defense was already really good.

The other thing here is the Panthers—when they fired Matt Rhule—resisted the urge to deal off veterans ahead of the trade deadline. They believed the coaching job there could be sold as one that, with core guys such as DE Brian Burns, CB Jaycee Horn, DT Derrick Brown, WR D.J. Moore and OT Ickey Ekwonu on hand, really is just a quarterback away.

So if you feel that way, and you see what Wilks is doing, having won three of four and four of seven, wouldn't it make sense to keep him? I personally think it would, and I’m starting to think Tepper is seriously considering it, too. I think with some tweaks—one could be bringing someone such as Eagles quarterbacks coach Brian Johnson aboard to help run the offense—Wilks could really have the Panthers hitting the ground running in 2023.

  • Pie 2
  • Beer 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Full context of Breer's answer below. Honestly, Johnson's name is just kind of a throw in at the end.

From Pete Crespo (@Petedelaware1): Hey Albert, Wilks has the @Panthers playing very competitive ball with limited production from the QB spot. Does he have a real chance to keep this job? Do you see them address the QB in FA since they are a team that can win now, or grab a new franchise QB in the draft?

Pete, I’m starting to think Wilks has a very legitimate chance to keep the Panthers’ job, build a staff of his own and get a real shot this time at being an NFL head coach. Owner David Tepper is well aware of the job that Wilks has done in uniting the locker room and building a real identity for the team—Carolina’s run game has emerged as one of the NFL’s best over the past two months, and did it after Christian McCaffrey was traded to the 49ers. And the defense was already really good.

The other thing here is the Panthers—when they fired Matt Rhule—resisted the urge to deal off veterans ahead of the trade deadline. They believed the coaching job there could be sold as one that, with core guys such as DE Brian Burns, CB Jaycee Horn, DT Derrick Brown, WR D.J. Moore and OT Ickey Ekwonu on hand, really is just a quarterback away.

So if you feel that way, and you see what Wilks is doing, having won three of four and four of seven, wouldn't it make sense to keep him? I personally think it would, and I’m starting to think Tepper is seriously considering it, too. I think with some tweaks—one could be bringing someone such as Eagles quarterbacks coach Brian Johnson aboard to help run the offense—Wilks could really have the Panthers hitting the ground running in 2023.

Yeah that was just spittballing a name.

  • Pie 1
  • The D 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

Yeah that was just spittballing a name.

That's all you are going to get at this point in the season. 

The only clue you may get in the offseason is how long they wait to do the interviews.  If they are going after a coach on a team in the playoffs they will wait to interview them when the playoff rules allow it. If its Wilks you will know before the playoffs are over most likely. 

The coordinators will follow the same timeline if it's Wilks who gets the job,  unless he stands pat with who he had now. 

 

  • Beer 4
Link to comment
Share on other sites

6 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Well that settles it then

Have you watched him? He's garbage. There were signs with Josh Allen including his ability to actually hit those deep shots, off platform dart throws to a point, etc.

I've seen absolutely none of that from Richardson. It's akin to taking Zach Wilson for me. You see his potential and ignore the bad things. 

Yall wanna waste a first round pick on a project when we already have one in Corral, go ahead. I guess I'll ride but I'm going to bitch the whole way so you better turn the radio up.

  • Pie 1
  • Poo 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Just now, TLGPanthersFan said:

I cannot get rid of the feeling hiring Wilks is gonna be a HUGE mistake. 

Mistake? No. He will improve the competitiveness of this team. He's already done that in short order.

Will it get us over the top to a SB? Who knows? You have to take a chance on someone. 

  • Beer 3
Link to comment
Share on other sites

19 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

If we draft Anthony Richardson for anything other than a TE conversion I quit.

Don't be so dramatic. We're going to take a swing and odds are we may have to do it again. Even a quarterback prospect you may be personally in love with could be a bust nobody knows anything for sure.

  • The D 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

 Share


  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • In my view, the realistic expectation for this team to compete will start 2027.  At that time, I think we could be looking at the following (this is HIGHLY speculative):   QB:  You know, Bryce.  I am not a fan, but they don't ask me.  But there is reason for hope--and here it is.  Bryce will be entering his prime.  Since we are likely to pay him, there will be changes that I include throughout this exercise--I realistically speculate on what they are going to do with Bryce and then I realistically speculate on what means in terms of the cap and other positions. Bryce HAS IMPROVED.  The idea is that if you give him more weapons and protection, that will continue.  His career:   At this rate, if his growth continues, by 2027 we should expect nearly 30 TDs and about 12 Interceptions and a Rating of about 98.  His completion percentage should settle at 65-66% or so.  If that happens, you can win with it. The following stats demonstrate how the Panthers will be able to afford it (and re-sign Ickey) My guess is they will require about $60m per year. This is why rookies who can play are important.  It also helps us see the blueprint.  You may disagree, but this is the cruel realities of the salary cap. Robert Hunt:  Cut post June 1 and save $19m.  Who do you replace him with?  Ickey. Tershawn Wharton:  Cutting him saves nearly $15m.  We should all hope to see Aaron Hall (UDFA) make the roster and play well.  Regardless, this is a position we would likely have to address in the next draft. Trevin Moehrig:  Cutting Moehrig as the starting SS saves this team $16.5m.   Ransom will be on year 3 of a cheap rookie deal and should be more than ready to take the reins.  their styles are similar.  Furthermore, FS Wheatley (R, 4th round) will be starting. Taylor Moton:  So much depends on his knee, but I have an idea that he can play another 3 years.  extending him could save the team about $5m per year.  Cutting him outright would save the team about $21m. In the most drastic situation, we have to cut Moton and the other three players mentioned.   We would need (in all likelihood) a starting DT and RT.  It is possible that the DE would be addressed, but Wharton's production (so far) could be equaled by a rookie.  Look for a cut free agent and a 2027 draft pick here.  If you cut Moton, you save $21m, and that would be the only big hole to fill.  Having Ickey at RG gives you some depth at T, and Ickey could be the guy.  T could be pick in the 2027 draft (first round), fwiw.  It saves you $21m while costing you $5m, for example. We get younger, creating a core of Freeling, Hecht, and the RT first rounder in 2027) along with Ekownu (second contract in the $15m range, and Lewis, whose contract would be in the $16m range if not extended.)  The OL cuts (Hunt, Moton) would save $40m.  The OL would get younger and still solid with veterans at G.   By cutting Wharton (no brainer if his play stays the same) and Moehrig (good player--but we have Ransom on a rookie contract who would not be that much of a drop off--if any) in addition to Hunt and Moton, we would save over $70m in cap room. We would be able to give Bryce bag  and we would have enough to re-sign Ickey (if the knee is not too risky) to a Guard contract (probably at a discount, coming off that injury).  Furthermore, we could add a RT in the draft (or a RG if Ickey moves to RT) and that would be the only large hole to fill. Correct my logic if you see issues-- On defense, in addition to the aforementioned, Scott ($2m contract) is out, replaced by a 4th round rookie contract. CB Jackson's contract ($7.8m) expires and he is (possibly) replaced by a rookie contract.  At Edge, patrick Jones II's $10m contract expires and he is likely a reserve, and his role is absorbed by Phillips, Scourton, Princely, and possible an UDFA like Isaiah Smith or a 2027 draft pick.   These productive developmental players over the past 2 drafts will pay huge dividends.  On paper, I see the team getting much younger and possibly better while cutting nearly $100m and reallocating that money to get more production.          
    • If everything played out and that last thing happened, I probably just quit. 
×
×
  • Create New...