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Some Good Ol' Sam Appreciation


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Who knew getting the ball out quick and being comfortable in the pocket would equal success at the QB position?! I hope this is the Sam Darnold that we see going forward whether his services are retained here, or he gets a gig elsewhere. I would love to see him get a couple of his favorite WR targets at SC in Carolina, but I'll settle for just solid TE out of the draft as well.   

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4 minutes ago, Ghostface Chilla said:

Who knew getting the ball out quick and being comfortable in the pocket would equal success at the QB position?! I hope this is the Sam Darnold that we see going forward whether his services are retained here, or he gets a gig elsewhere. I would love to see him get a couple of his favorite WR targets at SC in Carolina, but I'll settle for just solid TE out of the draft as well.   

It appears many of the modern NFL’s successful teams have a game changing, pass catching TE on their roster.

 

We need one badly if our offense is going to compete going forward.

 

P.S. We miss you, 88!

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Just now, mav1234 said:

He will probably go to another team next year and have to start over in gaining that trust with his new teammates.  Sometimes this issues just boil down to something as simple as trust. 

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I love personal redemption stories.  Sam may never put a team on his back and singlehandedly carry it to a win but, subject to laying an egg in the last two games, if he continues to play like this, he could become a competent backup or even a bridge QB for the Panthers.  And, if not here, someone else will give him that opportunity.

Would be a shame to drop kick him to the curb at the end of the season, right when he is figuring out how to win and we now have a real NFL o-line to protect him, and a vastly improving run game to support him.  It would be the Panther thing to do, to release him and he blooms [modestly] somewhere else.  His ceiling may be a lite beer version of Geno Smith or Ryan Tannehill but, for a backup or bridge QB, that would be enough.

So, two more games left to evaluate his progress.

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The most impressive change I've seen is sometimes when there is an outside pressure he is stepping up and actually climbing the pocket instead of totally panicking and his footwork going everywhere.   He definitely still has some frantic feet every once in a while but not like before.  He is learning to trust the oline a little more.

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