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New Coach Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo

Ricky Spanish

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ncfan Grand Master

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1 minute ago, Prowler2k18 said:

I still think the decision will come down to Reich or Wilks. Whoever comes up with the best plan to fix the offense will have the edge. 

I think that would be Reich.  Which I’d be more than happy with.

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2 minutes ago, ickmule said:

I’ve said it several times, people need to be careful what they wish for. These young coordinators aren’t ready to be HC and the learning curve is insane. He should stay in Philly in my opinion.  

If that wad true  dint you think we would have heard something like that of breer or Tom or Adam 

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2 minutes ago, ickmule said:

I’ve said it several times, people need to be careful what they wish for. These young coordinators aren’t ready to be HC and the learning curve is insane. He should stay in Philly in my opinion.  

This 💯as fans we sometimes lose sight of the human element of all this. It’s not as easy as simply pulling up stakes and moving to a new team and location. How will such a move effect his family, if he has one? What if the candidate decides he likes the stability of where he is, rather than the uncertainty of going to a new team with obvious challenges? Is he well connected enough to bring along qualified assistants, or will the new team expect him to retain some current staff members? A lot more involved behind the scenes that requires careful consideration before making the jump.

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3 minutes ago, Panthers316 said:

If that wad true  dint you think we would have heard something like that of breer or Tom or Adam 

Did we hear anything about Ben Johnson going back to Detroit from those guys until it actually happened?

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7 minutes ago, Panthers316 said:

What his sources tho I believe Benjamin allbright when he says it's shane job to lose

When did Ben say this.

I really trust Ben.   But stuff changes.  It’s been known that Tepper has been enamored with these young OCs 

Remember it was Ben Johnson’s to lose. Then he went back.

possibly one of those Coordinators he had a Feeling for and thought would be a front runner was Steichen.  Maybe that guy Didn’t interview well.  And now changes Teppers mind a little after sitting and talking with him.

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3 minutes ago, ickmule said:

I don’t believe any media. They are all full of $hit. 

I mean, just look at the Watson saga last offseason. No one knew sh*t. One day it was the Panthers in the lead to land him. Then the next day it was the Saints in the lead. And then a team that wasn't even mentioned in the sweepstakes for weeks gets him out of the blue.

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I mean, just look at the Watson saga last offseason. No one knew sh*t. One day it was the Panthers in the lead to land him. Then the next day it was the Saints in the lead. And then a team that wasn't even mentioned in the sweepstakes for weeks gets him out of the blue.

Yeah, the modern era of media is the rush to be first, regardless of the facts. So every unsubstantiated rumor or intentional information operation is just passed along with haste.

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I know it sucks waiting and speculating but I'm glad they're actually doing their due diligence this time around. 

Gun to my head, it's coming down to Reich or Wilks.

And after this month long process of trying to find out who the HC is, I'll be content with whoever they choose, because it will be obvious that that person has a plan/good idea for a staff in mind.  

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15 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

If he's the hire, I don't think they'll short him.

I understand politically why this would be the move.  I believe in the political motivation of being paid off of merit and not because of prejudice. 

However, If I performed admirably at a job that I had to fill in for and they decided to give me a shot after I wasn't intended to be the hire, I would be under more scrutiny and there would be less guarantees. 

Conversation may go like this. 

"We're going to give you a shot at this because you performed over expectation on an interim basis.  We know what the statistics are on interim coach full time hires.  We want to protect ourselves if we see a decline in production.   We're going to give you an opportunity to make the playoffs this year and if that happens we will look at a long term extension, if not we may go another route.  Sound fair?"

I think it's fair to offer an unproven commodity a smaller deal when you are offering the opportunity of a lifetime to that person that they would otherwise not receive.  The reason I use the term "otherwise" is more of an observation on offensive coaches being hired rather then an aging defensive backs coaches.

I don't think Wilks has enough a body of work as a HC or DC to really warrant contention in a normal year.  Now he did a great job as an interim, which is why he may get the job, but it's very risky and if Steve stagnates this coming season we will need to let him go.  I want the team to have an exit strategy if Wilks is the hire and he doesn't perform. 

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5 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I know it sucks waiting and speculating but I'm glad they're actually doing their due diligence this time around. 

Gun to my head, it's coming down to Reich or Wilks.

And after this month long process of trying to find out who the HC is, I'll be content with whoever they choose, because it will be obvious that that person has a plan/good idea for a staff in mind.  

i’m glad they are doing it like big boys this time. hiring at a top level of any org is about as big a move as you can make, so you’d better do your homework.

i have a feeling Wilks and Reich will be more like Foxball than not, but that’s just my speculation.

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