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Fitterer on drafting a QB this year

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Stroud plus this current roster can win the division next year. I think at WORST Stroud is a solid starter in the league, and he looks like he will put in the work to improve every year. If you tell me im giving up 3 first rounders for a guy that will be a stable QB in the league for the next 9 to 10 years then im not really worried at all about doing it. Who cares who gets upset, people have just gotten use to not having a difference maker at QB or they are scared about being the team willing to take the risk more than anybody else.

 

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Given that most rookie qbs struggle including supposed sure fire guys like Lawrence, there is no need to find a rookie qb who has to start day 1.  So the question is whether it is better value to try and develop a guy like Richardson over a season or two who could play as well as a guy like Stroud who looks more  NFL ready and might play sooner.play right now. Is the better value picking a Richardson who might be there at nine versus mortgaging the bank for Stroud by moving up to one or two.  If you are not convinced you have to have Stroud you could jump in with Richardson and still have your first next year in case that crop looks better than this one.  You can't  go all in just because you are tired of not having a franchise guy.

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Levis is already 4 out of 4 for me, but now he's not playing in the Senior Bowl either. 

I understand the Bowl game more than a post-season game primarily made to raise your draft stock. Dude had an underwhelming year and is already considered older than most draftees. He needs every opportunity to improve on a rough, rough year.

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1 hour ago, panthers55 said:

Given that most rookie qbs struggle including supposed sure fire guys like Lawrence, there is no need to find a rookie qb who has to start day 1.  So the question is whether it is better value to try and develop a guy like Richardson over a season or two who could play as well as a guy like Stroud who looks more  NFL ready and might play sooner.play right now. Is the better value picking a Richardson who might be there at nine versus mortgaging the bank for Stroud by moving up to one or two.  If you are not convinced you have to have Stroud you could jump in with Richardson and still have your first next year in case that crop looks better than this one.  You can't  go all in just because you are tired of not having a franchise guy.

I might be confused but that looks like using 2 1sts in '23 and '24 to get a QB anyway? 

I've seen others say to draft AR and sit him until next year...but does that mean that he's better than Maye/Williams? Otherwise, if he's not playing until next year, why not draft one of Maye/Williams next year, who you'd probably start. All three guys are first year starters in this scenario.

So maybe just use the '24 1st to go get the QB you want this year instead of hoping he falls, or use this year's first on BPA (or trade down) and use next year's 1st on a QB.

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2 hours ago, Basbear said:

Hes listen to my 2 month old comment about 4 QBs going in the top 8....ANd AR will light up the combine....

Honestly, if AR is our target if we stand pat at 9, we likely will have to move up to get him.  I've always said, generally, with QBs, if they're projected at a certain spot before the pre-draft process, they usually get pushed up a lot more by the time the process is over due to demand and it being the most coveted position to fill in football. We may have to move up into the Top 5 even for AR, especially if he performs well at the combine.

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I'm all for taking a 1st round QB but I think there's a lesson in some of the big moves that have failed: Trubisky and Lance for example. 

Let's see who's left at 9 rather than trade a bunch of 1s and 2s.  It can happen: Allen at 7, Mahomes at 10, Lamar at 32.  Winning teams that waited. 

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25 minutes ago, ClawOn said:

I'm all for taking a 1st round QB but I think there's a lesson in some of the big moves that have failed: Trubisky and Lance for example. 

Let's see who's left at 9 rather than trade a bunch of 1s and 2s.  It can happen: Allen at 7, Mahomes at 10, Lamar at 32.  Winning teams that waited. 

Those teams traded up for the 3 qbs you listed 

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1 hour ago, BrisbanePanther said:

I might be confused but that looks like using 2 1sts in '23 and '24 to get a QB anyway? 

I've seen others say to draft AR and sit him until next year...but does that mean that he's better than Maye/Williams? Otherwise, if he's not playing until next year, why not draft one of Maye/Williams next year, who you'd probably start. All three guys are first year starters in this scenario.

So maybe just use the '24 1st to go get the QB you want this year instead of hoping he falls, or use this year's first on BPA (or trade down) and use next year's 1st on a QB.

Just because you still have your first next year doesn't mean you have to get another quarterback with it but the point is you could if for whatever reason you felt Richardson wasn't the one or like Gruden, Reich starts collecting quarterbacks. Everything I see suggests that Richardson has the athleticism and arm of a great qb. But Reich said his players had to have good fundamentals and accelerated vision. I heard he maybe be erratic in his fundamentals and his decision making was suspect.

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