What would you give the bears for #1 pick

[Cdparr7]

They get the 9th overall, 2nd, 1st and 3rd next year

Edited February 2, 2023 by Cdparr7

[raleigh-panther]

48 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

Got us to a Super Bowl...when we did it.

Once, in 26 years   Once

I would not exactly say a team was built for Newton 

I would say that Clausen was so freaking abysmal they had to take someone or the fans weren’t going to show up   I know  I was one of those paying fans 

so bad, they had the number one pick that year

they went with someone that everyone thought would fail. They took a chance 

Edited February 2, 2023 by raleigh-panther

[Jackie Lee]

If I run a Bears mock draft on PFN, the Panthers offer pick #9, both 2nd rounders, next years 1st and 2nd rounders for #1. 

[rippadonn]

2 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

We didn't sign Coach to worry about the defense. If we wanted defense we would have kept Wilks.

 

This is not a rebuild roster. We need to win now. Nobody wants to wait next year for a QB. People said the same thing last year. Draft a QB develop him point blank. That's why we hired him.lol

You didn't listen to coach did you? He said to stay in the hunt for a championship, to stay a playoff team you need a top five defense.

Believe me, he loves defense, you're getting a balanced HC, not a hot shot OC trying to make a name. He wouldn't have gotten the job without having a defensive philosophy.

[heel31ok]

21 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

Once, in 26 years   Once

I would not exactly say a team was built for Newton 

I would say that Clausen was so freaking abysmal they had to take someone or the fans weren’t going to show up   I know  I was one of those paying fans 

so bad, they had the number one pick that year

they went with someone that everyone thought would fail. They took a chance 

It wasn't built for newton. it was built for delhomme.With Cam it was the constant complaint. 

 

[heel31ok]

3 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Coach needs a QB if he plans on staying here for a long time.

He needs a good one if he plans on staying. We have a qb already so your standard is met.

[mccjeff]

Nothing. I would give them nothing because I would not try to trade up to #1.

[rippadonn]

Just now, CamWhoaaCam said:

Coach needs a QB if he plans on staying here for a long time.

No better man to evaluate and build a QB. IF he gets anything out of Corral like getting him to be a top 15QB, with a top five defense a QB like that can win. That third rounder contract would be GOLD while we built a complete team.

Look at Andrew Luck. He quit. Even had he not quit that first rounder contract would have crippled what the team could do around him. Sometimes it's better to not have the burden if paying a top tier QB when a less costly almost as skilled QB not making mistakes and a top five defense will get a team much farther. That's what coach was explaining.

[AU-panther]

1 hour ago, Doc Holiday said:

So people get upset about these Hypothetical trades as if we are the ones themselves negotiating with the other team. which is a mistake to do so, this is purely speculative and for fun.

But People saying Burns plus #9 isnt valuable enough by itself objectively have no idea what theyre talking about.  

And lets break down why:

1. we have a top 10 draft pick, which is very valuable.

2. positions by value in the NFL:1. QB 2. Pass Rush DE. Think otherwise? just look at the history of the NFL draft over the last 20 years. only 1 player has gone 1st overall in the last 20 years that wasnt either a QB or a DE. What does that say? DE and QB are the two most important positions on a team.

3. Brian Burns value is high, very very high! He is a Probowl Pass rushing DE and at the young age of 24. Panthers were already offered 2 first round picks and then some for Burns and already turned that down. So we are already saying Burn's value is higher than that, very high. Probably equivalent to a top 3 draft pick.

That should be more than enough to get the first overall pick. If they wanted anything more I'd tell them to take a hike Burns isnt worth trading for Anything less than a legit Franchise QB level prospect. 

In your mind it might be enough to get it done, but in the real world it won't happen and they wouldn't take it, imo.

 

 

[AggieLean]

I’m willing to give 3 1sts, and a couple mid round picks. 
 

It’s time to go after, and get a franchise/elite QB.

[Doc Holiday]

34 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

In your mind it might be enough to get it done, but in the real world it won't happen and they wouldn't take it, imo.

 

 

That’s in your mind, not the real world. None of us are getting invited to the negotiation table. Your suggested trade offer is no more valid than mine. 

it’s the fun of the discussion. 
 

difference between ours is I explained why my offer would have had plenty of value, you didn’t. No it doesn’t have the shock big numbers that people like to throw around. But the value is indeed there.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

#9

2024 #1

Brian Burns

[CPF4LIFE]

If there is a way to get it done without giving up our second rounders thats the route i would go. Its a lot of first round talent gonna be available in the second round this draft and some good quality linemen to pick up in the late rounds. This is the draft we need to go all in.

Edited February 2, 2023 by CPF4LIFE

[rippadonn]

3 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

You can look at Corral from the eye test and tell he just doesn't have the talent to be a starter in this league.

What is Corral particularly great at?

Rpo, rolling out, throwing on the run with accuracy, great zip on his ball, tight spiral almost bounces off his hands much like Cam, very quick release, very mobile, runs with great vision much like a RB, very good accuracy on fade routes, damn good, he was the only QB in camp to swish that drill twice.

Only thing was they've always said he needed more than 212lbs on his 6'2" frame the way he runs and creates contact in the open field.

YOU choose not to see what's been before everyones eyes.

He was Matt Corral BEFORE the NFL or the Panthers came knocking, and they did knock, before the draft.

Stop hating. Show a Panther love.