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Carr’s destination betting odds

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A big part of me thinks this is Carolina  returning the favor that happened with them coming in and driving up the Watson stuff.  I'm pretty sure  the more we drive his price up, the less the Saints have to spend. Who knows but interested to see how this shakes out. 

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7 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

With a Carr and this staff, I could see us drafting next year in the 16-24 range. Or we better be if we are dropping $40 million on a QB.

Anyway, how are we getting from 16+ to #1 overall? Especially when 9x out of 10 the #1 pick needs a QB and ain't budging.

If we are drafting a QB, if we want to trade up and want our pick of the class, this is the only year to do that. Otherwise we are moving up to 8-10 to grab someone that falls. I really, really do not see us picking in the top 10 next year.

Wait why do we have to get to #1 

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7 minutes ago, Luciu5 said:

With a Carr and this staff, I could see us drafting next year in the 16-24 range. Or we better be if we are dropping $40 million on a QB.

Anyway, how are we getting from 16+ to #1 overall? Especially when 9x out of 10 the #1 pick needs a QB and ain't budging.

If we are drafting a QB, if we want to trade up and want our pick of the class, this is the only year to do that. Otherwise we are moving up to 8-10 to grab someone that falls. I really, really do not see us picking in the top 10 next year.

And I’d bet Tampa ends up with that #1 pick and Caleb Williams next year. They’re going to be bad.

I don’t want Carr at all. Would rather go draft, but if the panthers bring him in, I hope it works. I doubt it, though.

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3 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

Wait why do we have to get to #1 

I hear two qb names over and over here for next year. If they maintain their trajectory they aren't falling to 8 or 10. And if we are taking the 3rd or 4th qb next year, and trading up to do so ?? I think I'd rather go to 1 this year. Seems asinine if that is what people are thinking.

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2 hours ago, jb2288 said:

Agree. If Reich ends up being the guy, Carr would be our Alex Smith. 3 years or so to right the ship and then we make a big reach for a QB down the road. 

Yup, and iirc, off the top of my head, I think Smith was only the starter in KC for a year or two prior to them drafting Mahomes and then started Mahomes' rookie season and then was traded.  And all due respect to Smith, but I think Carr is a much more complete QB and a lot more dynamic than Smith was.  It would be the ideal scenario, imo.

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1 minute ago, Jackie Lee said:

This is not a positive breakdown of his last game. Seems like he's regressed to basically Sam/Baker quality. Bad footwork, panic throws, check downs when he should be taking shots down field..We've had enough of that the last couple years

 

Yeah, but I just don't know what all tou can take from last season for him...  McDaniels is a poo coach, the organization is dysfunctional, and he has how many years of good tape before last season's debacle?  I don't think a QB just falls off a cliff like that at 32 barring injury.

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1 hour ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I can't believe the amount of people who actually want to sign him.

 

Like what happened to the franchise QB talk for the last 3 years...

 

Im seeing people say they rather have a 32 year old Derek Carr over a 26 year old former MVP candidate Lamar Jackson.lmao

 

 

 

Baltimore were playing with house money with Lamar on a rookie deal. Going forward not so much I honestly believe Carr has a better chance at winning a ring 

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10 hours ago, travisura said:

If we go this route, our #9 pick needs to be the best WR on the board.

There’s no WR worth the 9th pick. JSN is probably the best in the class and will go late first bc he’s not fast. 
 

oh and carr sucks. What the fug is wrong with this fanbase. 

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now carr? Catch a fugging clue people. Other teams trash qbs are not our treasure. 

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42 minutes ago, Panthers8969 said:

There’s no WR worth the 9th pick. JSN is probably the best in the class and will go late first bc he’s not fast. 
 

oh and carr sucks. What the fug is wrong with this fanbase. 

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now carr? Catch a fugging clue people. Other teams trash qbs are not our treasure.

“He’ll be the most talented QB we’ve had since Cam”.  Just like Baker was and we know how well that went. 

I want the team to be better and Carr probably makes the team better so the exercise of considering the option is being thorough.  That said, I don’t think I’d be happy for settling for that if there are other options available thru the draft.  

Personally, this would be way down the list for me in terms of trying to fix the QB dilemma.
 

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8 hours ago, Luciu5 said:

With a Carr and this staff, I could see us drafting next year in the 16-24 range. Or we better be if we are dropping $40 million on a QB.

Anyway, how are we getting from 16+ to #1 overall? Especially when 9x out of 10 the #1 pick needs a QB and ain't budging.

If we are drafting a QB, if we want to trade up and want our pick of the class, this is the only year to do that. Otherwise we are moving up to 8-10 to grab someone that falls. I really, really do not see us picking in the top 10 next year.

This is something people can’t wrap their head around.

Drake and Caleb are going 1 and 2.  If you don’t have those picks.  Your not getting them.  As Daniel Jeremiah said.  Even if you have pick 3.  Teams aren’t trading out to 3 off those guys.  So pretty much tough luck.

And outside those 2 guys.  Next years QB class is uncertain.  The next guy up isn’t even getting the hype of Bryce, Stroud, ARich, etc this time last year.  So we going to do this again talking is it worth it to move up from 20.  Trading 3 1sts for Spencer Rattler?

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Just now, ncfan said:

This is something people can’t wrap their head around.

Drake and Caleb are going 1 and 2.  If you don’t have those picks.  Your not getting them.  As Daniel Jeremiah said.  Even if you have pick 3.  Teams aren’t trading out to 3 off those guys.  So pretty much tough luck.

And outside those 2 guys.  Next years QB class is uncertain.  The next guy up isn’t even getting the hype of Bryce, Stroud, ARich, etc this time last year.  So we going to do this again talking is it worth it to move up from 20.  Trading 3 1sts for Spencer Rattler?

Penix may be better than anyone in this class. After that who knows. 

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15 minutes ago, Pazhoosier89 said:

Penix may be better than anyone in this class. After that who knows. 

Penix is decent.  But I wouldn’t say his upside is better than these guys.  And the jury is still out on him.  This was his 1 healthy season in like 5 years (this was the first time he’s played more than 6 games in 5 seasons due to Injuries)

  He’s had 2 torn ACL’s and a few other injuries as well already. We 

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