Reich: "It will be a Base 3-4 Scheme"

[Basbear]

15 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

im fascinated by this URL, haha.

[NAS]

Has Derrick Brown played in this scheme before?

[Basbear]

5 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Brown is 6'5 330lbs. How much larger do we need to get at the NT position?

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, that's considerably lighter than Brown has played probably since high school. That's my point.

I thought your point was that Brown is too light to play NT in a 3-4, no? I’m saying the guy Evero played at NT in his last defense was 5 inches and 15 pounds smaller than Brown.

[csx]

42 minutes ago, NAS said:

Has Derrick Brown played in this scheme before?

 

He's been playing in a multiple front defense since he got here.

 

I love it and while there may be some growing pains as explanted by Rodrigue due to the dynamics of Evero's defense you don't avoid changes intended to last due to upfront challenges. Coaching changes bring needed scheme changes. You want to run Snow's defense forever?

 

3-4 lineman and linebackers are relatively easy to get in later rounds due to how much attention prototypical DE and DTs get.

 

We have big bodied lineman and undersized athletic edge rushers.  

Edited February 22, 2023 by csx

[Bostonheelfish]

Draft Benton to play nose. Van Ness would be a good 3-4 DE too. 

[CPantherKing]

You want bigger? 3rd round... LSU transfer - 2019 national champion.

 Put this guy next to him as a 3-4 DE if he falls in the 1st round...

 

Brown - Ika - Carter would be tough for any 5 man OL to block. LBs would be free to roam.

If you want to go heavy defense in the draft, could get Carter, Sewell, Ika, and Campbell. Move Shaq to SS and leave Chinn at FS. The combination of Brown, Ika, Carter, Sewell, and Campbell attacking the middle would solve most if not all of the inside running game issue. That would leave Burns and Luvu to aggressively attack the outside and Shaq and Chinn to play inside out going downhill unblocked as the last line of defense against the run.

[Harbingers]

3-4 is a shitty defense and this will be a running issue through his tenure here. 

[pantherj]

I don't like the 3-4, but if we're determined to do it, then we need a Vince Wilfork type.

[Mr. Scot]

55 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

3-4 is a shitty defense and this will be a running issue through his tenure here. 

The guy who's gonna be running it did pretty well with it at his last stop.

[onmyown]

1 hour ago, Harbingers said:

3-4 is a shitty defense and this will be a running issue through his tenure here. 

It’s a harder defense vs. pass happy teams because it’s less predictable. However I agree I am not a fan mainly because a good NT is rare and makes the whole system work to begin with and the running D is already below average.

Contrary to worries in this thread though, Chinn is young, 6’3 220, I see no reason he can’t put on 10 LBs and fit in, he’s a playmaker.

 

Edited February 22, 2023 by onmyown

[Mr. Scot]

I'd go back to something Reich said in his presser:

(Paraphrasing) "I hired a man, not a scheme."

[csx]

39 minutes ago, onmyown said:

It’s a harder defense vs. pass happy teams because it’s less predictable. However I agree I am not a fan mainly because a good NT is rare and makes the whole system work to begin with and the running D is already below average.

Contrary to worries in this thread though, Chinn is young, 6’3 220, I see no reason he can’t put on 10 LBs and fit in, he’s a playmaker.

 

NT are easier to find than dynamic DTs

The good 3-4 defenses are loaded with late round NT as evidenced by a look around at other teams depth charts.

Edited February 22, 2023 by csx

[OldhamA]

On 2/22/2023 at 3:24 AM, pantherj said:

I don't like the 3-4, but if we're determined to do it, then we need a Vince Wilfork type.

I mean any team could do with a HOF NT. 

Edited February 23, 2023 by OldhamA