PFF - What would it take for Panthers to trade up for #1 pick

[Xtreme]

5 hours ago, Lemory said:

If that's what it takes for a franchise QB than do it 

You're talking like it's a guarantee. 

[LinvilleGorge]

17 minutes ago, TheMaulClaw said:

Worst idea ever.  There are only about 4 or 5 qbs in the league I would give that up for.

But that wouldn't be nearly enough to get one of those 4 or 5 proven commodities.

[Tr3ach]

2 hours ago, rayzor said:

A move like that could also give us the next Mahomes. 

That is true, but there are lots of drafts where no qb ends up being a Mahomes. 

[TheMaulClaw]

6 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

But that wouldn't be nearly enough to get one of those 4 or 5 proven commodities.

Outside of Mahomes, Allen, and Burrow it would get us just about whoever we wanted. 3 first and a 2nd is way too much to move up 8 spots. Especially for an unknown commodity in an okay not wonderful draft class.  

[rayzor]

12 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

That is true, but there are lots of drafts where no qb ends up being a Mahomes. 

True, but how are you going to know if you don't swing? 

Seriously, what would you give up for Mahomes?

[AggieLean]

34 minutes ago, BrisbanePanther said:

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Not sure where I said anyone here had influence, because anyone who does probably should be getting paid by the team and not shooting the breeze with us. But I did say if it were left to the forum it would never happen and I stand by that. I also never said that I knew who the franchise QB was, but I'd surely want to see the team do what it took to get one that didn't involve grabbing a piece of coal and hoping it turns into a diamond. 

And almost all of us would happily take Tepper's money if he was offering it in exchange for getting it right. 

Amen!

[FugginPoo]

If the QB is franchise you do it and it’s not as bad as it seems because the QB is on rookie deal and instead of those draft picks you sign top tier free agents at positions of need with the savings

Edited February 22, 2023 by FugginPoo

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, rayzor said:

True, but how are you going to know if you don't swing? 

Seriously, what would you give up for Mahomes?

Ask Rivera. He called about it.

[PNW_PantherMan]

I can understand wanting to take the risk, but assuming any prospect is a sure thing is asinine.

[Stuart Smith]

6 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-what-are-the-chicago-bears-options-with-the-no-1-overall-pick-in-the-2023-nfl-draft

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PANTHERS GET

NO. 1 OVERALL

 

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BEARS GET

NO. 9 OVERALL

NO. 61 OVERALL

1ST ROUND PICK (2024)

 

1ST ROUND PICK (2025)

 

6 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-what-are-the-chicago-bears-options-with-the-no-1-overall-pick-in-the-2023-nfl-draft

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PANTHERS GET

NO. 1 OVERALL

 

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BEARS GET

NO. 9 OVERALL

NO. 61 OVERALL

1ST ROUND PICK (2024)

 

1ST ROUND PICK (2025)

I would do this if the coaching staff feels safe that there is a pick with that. You either trust Fitt and Reich or you don’t. If they want more than this you walk away. 

Edited February 22, 2023 by Stuart Smith
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[LinvilleGorge]

27 minutes ago, TheMaulClaw said:

Outside of Mahomes, Allen, and Burrow it would get us just about whoever we wanted. 3 first and a 2nd is way too much to move up 8 spots. Especially for an unknown commodity in an okay not wonderful draft class.  

Won't get any of those three or Hurts or Herbert or Lawrence. Basically any of the guys you'd actually be thrilled to be building around.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Won't get any of those three or Hurts or Herbert or Lawrence. Basically any of the guys you'd actually be thrilled to be building around.

And if you could, you'd be smart to ask why.

[TheMaulClaw]

9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Won't get any of those three or Hurts or Herbert or Lawrence. Basically any of the guys you'd actually be thrilled to be building around.

It might get you Herbert. I just don't think anyone in this draft is on that level.  Caleb Williams...okay.  CJ Stroud...it's a bit too much.

 

 

[SCO96]

28 minutes ago, FugginPoo said:

If the QB is franchise you do it and it’s not as bad as it seems because the QB is on rookie deal and instead of those draft picks you sign top tier free agents at positions of need with the savings

You're making a big assumption with this post. Let's not for get that Free agency is before the draft.

Why do you think "top tier" free agents would want to come to a team that hasn't had a winning record since 2017?

Why would top tier free agents get excited about coming to a franchise that has never had back to back winning seasons in its 28 year history?

Why do you think Carolina would be a dream destination for top tier free agents when we are currently several millions of dollars over the cap?

I don't think top tier free agents are dying to come to Carolina knowing that the only two QB's currently  on our roster are Matt Corrall and Jacob Eason?

We'll become a desired destination for "top tier free agents" when/if we establish a winning culture. Or, if someone out there is just thrilled with the prospect of playing under the new coaching staff (which I admit is possible).

We've got some nice pieces in place, but we need more. The draft picks we have in 2023 and 2024 really should lay the foundation for future success if we play our cards right. How successful can any franchise QB, or a potential franchise QB in our case, really be if you don't surround him with any good to elite talent at the skill postions or on the defensive side of the ball?

 

 

Edited February 22, 2023 by SCO96