Thomas Davis - Not so fast my friend!

[MHS831]

2 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

You'd have a package of plays for Richardson from day 1.

He's only going to benefit from playing - you'd probably start Dalton until the bye week, then hand the reigns over to the rookie after that.

I just do not see taking on the risk.  Cam's completion percentage at Auburn was 10% higher (roughly) than Richardson, and in the NFL, Cam was below 60%.  If you have a Stroud or Young sitting right there, do you take a QB who will dazzle with his running ability, but his passing is a huge ?  

I would take him #1 in last year's draft, but not this season.  However, anything is possible.

[ForJimmy]

1 hour ago, jfra78 said:

I don't think it's a smokescreen.  I think the Panthers know who they want, but the league wants them to keep it quiet to give them something to talk about.  I think the Panthers are just having fun with it

Unless TD is also doing a smokescreen. He is smokescreening the smokescreen….

[The Lobo]

17 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Unless TD is also doing a smokescreen. He is smokescreening the smokescreen….

Inconceivable 

[therealmjl]

1 hour ago, The Lobo said:

If everything is a smokescreen, why couldn’t his statement about film be one? Not saying you’re wrong, it’s just we can’t really believe anything at the moment. 

Because at some point, common sense prevails. Everything Reich, Fitt, and even Thomas Brown have said about traits they want in a quarterback just don’t align with AR.

Go back and listen to Thomas Browns intro presser - he mentions the desire to have a QB with a “point guard mentality, a distributor” - which just isn’t what AR is at this point. This would have to be some next level smoke-screening.

I just don’t see any possible scenario AR is in play, especially after trading up.

Edited March 22, 2023 by therealmjl

[NJPanthers12]

No one is telling Thomas Davis who the pick is. If they are they should be fired immediately. Also if someone actually did, then Davis is a moron for revealing it  to everyone. My best guess is they used him like a pawn and he fell for it.

[jayboogieman]

11 hours ago, Shocker said:

Richardson at #1…

Embrace the chaos

[jayboogieman]

10 hours ago, cookinwithgas said:

It’s just nice to know that as of right now, at least, our coaching, staff and owners are playing actual chess regarding the draft and what they are going to do. That is always a good thing.

If they're playing chess, it's against themselves and they don't know the rules. They've already paid a lot to move up to 1 and this isn't a movie where they magically get to make moves that allows them to get 2 top 10 players and all their picks back.

[PantherFanInPhilly]

Yall are smoking if you think they're taking AR15 at 1. No chance in hell. 

[CRA]

2 hours ago, PantherFanInPhilly said:

Yall are smoking if you think they're taking AR15 at 1. No chance in hell. 

If I told you this time last year.....the Panthers front office was trading CMC and DJ Moore.  Most would say no chance in hell to that. 

If I told you when Matt Rhule was hired his solution to the Panthers problem was to sign Sam, Robbie (Jets and Jags being casted off) and add bunch of Baylor/Temple guys the day he was hired? People would say no chance in hell that was a comedy that would never happen. 

I mean, we drafted a corner in the top 10 with the worst QB roster in the NFL.

You can't predict things. 

[Camp Fodder]

14 hours ago, DJ feed me moore said:

ill actually go on a bender if they pick AR #1. plz no

Yep that would cancel out all the great moves that have been made this year. No need to trade for a guy that probably is there at 9

[Mage]

20 minutes ago, CRA said:

If I told you this time last year.....the Panthers front office was trading CMC and DJ Moore.  Most would say no chance in hell to that. 

Trading a good WR and a great RB isn't unprecedented.  Hell talented receivers get traded every year it seems like.  Taking a CB in the first round isn't unprecedented.

Anthony Richardson would be the least accomplished #1 overall pick at the QB position and it wouldn't even be close.  He would be an absolutely unprecedented selection given his college production or lack thereof.

Comparing the situations is ridiculous.

Anthony Richardson is not going #1.  I would put money on that not happening.  Even JaMarcus Russell had more college production than him.  And this isn't me hating on AR - I like him a lot and would have loved him at #9.  But we sit and compare him to other QBs who have went 1 in history?  It just isn't going to happen.  Teams aren't taking him over multi-year starters.  The exceptions are when that year is so damn good ala Newton or Burrow, and Richardson's season obviously wasn't that.

I'm sure you'll keep insisting there is a chance though, because "panthers organization bad." And obviously neither of us will never know for sure how strongly he's been considered until after the draft.  But I feel extremely confident that Anthony Richardson, a 1-year starter who threw for 17 TDs, is not going #1 overall in the draft just because he had a great combine.  It is just chatter, the type of chatter you hear before the draft every year where people keep propping up guys that have no chance of going as high as people are saying.  Hell people were convinced Justin Fields was going top 3 and he fell to 11.  Do I think Richardson falls to the teens?  Maybe, maybe not, but he absolutely isn't going #1 overall.  That is insane talk.

 

Edited March 22, 2023 by Mage

[Camp Fodder]

13 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Imagine using Undisputed as your voice of reason. Those dudes talk more about off the field antics than actual football.smh

 

 

I’m pretty sure Reich stated in Mondays presser they were taking a QB in the draft at 1

[CRA]

12 minutes ago, Mage said:

Trading a good WR and a great RB isn't unprecedented.  Hell talented receivers get traded every year it seems like.  Taking a CB in the first round isn't unprecedented.

 

 

How many teams trade away their 2 clear cut best offensive players in the same year?  It's not common. 

How many teams in QB purgatory for years with nothing on the roster draft DBs in the top 10 with good QB prospects falling in their laps.  It's not common. 

Rhule saying he wanted Cam, cutting Cam, and then bringing Cam back a year later to save their jobs also was not predictable.  

My point is simply you can't say we 0% chance of drafting AR.  Our front office is NOT predictable.  And there are legit people saying he has some support here.  

and NFL teams despite their absurd payrolls are mom and pop shops.  And any routinely do idiotic stuff all the time. 

[MHS831]

2 hours ago, therealmjl said:

Because at some point, common sense prevails. Everything Reich, Fitt, and even Thomas Brown have said about traits they want in a quarterback just don’t align with AR.

Go back and listen to Thomas Browns intro presser - he mentions the desire to have a QB with a “point guard mentality, a distributor” - which just isn’t what AR is at this point. This would have to be some next level smoke-screening.

I just don’t see any possible scenario AR is in play, especially after trading up.

Yup.  They don't really have the coaches with a history of developing a QB like this--and I am not sure they have the offensive system and personnel for it--