Deandre Hopkins is a FA

[NAS]

6 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

Was just listening to Sirius NFL radio while in my car.  Moving the Chains with Jim Miller and Pat Kirwin.  A Panther fan called in and of course wanted DHop and asked if they thought the Panthers had the money to get him.  Jim and Pat said that DHop is not interested in raising another young QB.  But, Jim also said that the Panthers do not need him.  They love the Panther WR room.  They have been rating different position groups on each team  and next week it will be WRs.  Jim told the caller that he would be really surprised when he hears their rating/eval.  Jim loves Mingo.  Jim said the Panthers ahve realy set Bryce up well.

I always cringe when a Panther fan calls into the show. Yet to hear an intelligent take from any of them.

[Khyber53]

I'm not sure anyone has gotten their money's worth from Nuk in a long time. Maybe it's best we just let someone else take him on.

[trucpfan]

2 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Until we offer him the most money.

 

Talk is cheap this will be about the most money this is likely his last big contract and he has 10 kids to feed!

 

If we overpay I think he would come here.

Naw not a chance I know his good friend he’s set on a contender and doesn’t want to play with a rookie qb I’ve heard that from one of his partners who literally hangs with him. But if that wasn’t the case I’d still believe he wants to contend strongly for a chip I like where we are at now but don’t see us on the level of Buffalo or KC or Baltimore. Do you think 10 million more over 3 years is enough to persuade him when he’s made a hefty amount the last four years. I hope he changes his mind and plays here close to home I’d go crazy we’d be a threat offensively to anyone we play.

[pantherj]

11 minutes ago, ladypanther said:

Was just listening to Sirius NFL radio while in my car.  Moving the Chains with Jim Miller and Pat Kirwin.  A Panther fan called in and of course wanted DHop and asked if they thought the Panthers had the money to get him.  Jim and Pat said that DHop is not interested in raising another young QB.  But, Jim also said that the Panthers do not need him.  They love the Panther WR room.  They have been rating different position groups on each team  and next week it will be WRs.  Jim told the caller that he would be really surprised when he hears their rating/eval.  Jim loves Mingo.  Jim said the Panthers ahve realy set Bryce up well.

This is just my opinion but I'm seeing trouble on the horizon with the WR corps. Jim may love Mingo, but college level DBs stuck to him like glue. Not good. That means NFL DBs will be all over him as well. I'm not saying Mongo won't be good, but he may need to be thrown open. I think waving off DHop because we have TMJ, Chark, and 32 year old slot receiver Thielen, would seem kind of silly to me. Just my opinion. Obviously go by what the experts are saying. Not trying to invalidate or dismiss what was said on the radio.

[pantherj]

I don't think Hopkins wants to come here. He'd want to go to the Bills imo, but if he showed any interest of coming here I'd be all over it. He'd instantly be our best WR by far. Keep in mind that this years problem area will probably be the passing game. Why not boost it up? Easy choice.

Edited May 26, 2023 by pantherj

[Chief Keek]

Sure, will he take veterans minimum?

[Herb]

If we pull this off….

[NAS]

I see him going to the Bills, they're desperate to win the SB.

[Paa Langfart]

4 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

I agree that he probably wants to play for a contende

yeah  and hes been in the NFL for 10 years, isnt getting any younger and already has had to resort to PED's to maintain a deteriorating game.  Hard pass.

[Stuart Smith]

5 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

These arguments get old. Same as the "X area is better than Y area!" We don't know what the personal motivations for most od these guys are. It might be family, taxes, area, who fuging knows?

We can guess the football reasons but speculation on people's personal motivations seems very useless.

You need to research the Tyreek Hill trade. He preferred to go to Miami instead of Jets because same salary he would have paid 2.7 million in state tax in NY, none in Florida. I agree it probably is not the deciding factor, but it could matter to some. 

[tukafan21]

2 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

I'm not sure anyone has gotten their money's worth from Nuk in a long time. Maybe it's best we just let someone else take him on.

What planet are you living on?

Last year after his suspension he killed it until Kyler got hurt, his per game averages would have come out to 120 catches for 1,350 yards in a 17 game season.

2021 wasn't great, but still, when he's been on the field, he's still an elite level WR.  No, maybe he's not a Top 3 WR in the league anymore, but he's absolutely Top 20 at worst and still probably pushing Top 10 if he's fully healthy.

He still has some of, if not THE, best hands in the NFL, he catches almost anything in his radius

[tukafan21]

3 minutes ago, Stuart Smith said:

You need to research the Tyreek Hill trade. He preferred to go to Miami instead of Jets because same salary he would have paid 2.7 million in state tax in NY, none in Florida. I agree it probably is not the deciding factor, but it could matter to some. 

Yea, but Tyreek was very clear that he was looking to be the unquestioned #1 option on a team (which he wouldn't be with Kelce in KC) and that he was looking for the max money he could get.

Hopkins was saying that he'd take a pay cut if he was traded to a contender, I don't think he's looking to squeeze out every penny possible.

 

[tukafan21]

3 hours ago, ladypanther said:

Was just listening to Sirius NFL radio while in my car.  Moving the Chains with Jim Miller and Pat Kirwin.  A Panther fan called in and of course wanted DHop and asked if they thought the Panthers had the money to get him.  Jim and Pat said that DHop is not interested in raising another young QB.  But, Jim also said that the Panthers do not need him.  They love the Panther WR room.  They have been rating different position groups on each team  and next week it will be WRs.  Jim told the caller that he would be really surprised when he hears their rating/eval.  Jim loves Mingo.  Jim said the Panthers ahve realy set Bryce up well.

If everything, and I literally mean EVERYTHING, goes right with our WRs this year, then yea, we'll have a really good WR room.

If Chark can stay fully healthy for 17 games and finds his form, he can be a borderline #1 option.  Thielen is still an elite check down option and as a #3 in the slot can be one of the more effective safety valves in the league.  Then if TMJ and Bingo play up to their max potential this year, that's a solid top 4 with gadget weapons with Laviska and Byrd as our 5th and 6th WRs.

But any injuries or players not living up to their potential, and it could be a disastrous unit.

We may not have the top end elite WRs, but our 3-6 WRs might be some of the best in the league if things work out this year.  And in an offense that should have a good run game and this next level brain in Bryce, it could work.

Having said all that, I'll still take Hopkins in a heartbeat, less for this year, more for next year.  Give him a year to help Bryce grow, if TMJ and/or Mingo breakout, we could be legit SB contenders in 2024 with Bryce in his second year and a Top 4 of Hopkins, TMJ, Mingo, Thielen.

[kungfoodude]

24 minutes ago, Stuart Smith said:

You need to research the Tyreek Hill trade. He preferred to go to Miami instead of Jets because same salary he would have paid 2.7 million in state tax in NY, none in Florida. I agree it probably is not the deciding factor, but it could matter to some. 

The key there being "some." It's just as pointless a discussion as "this area is better than that area."