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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

We didn't have the 49ers roster either. DJ is the equivalent of a 1st. Two 2nds are about the equivalent of a 1st. We gave up about four 1st rounders worth of value. Definitely not peanuts and yeah, if Bryce doesn't work out we're gonna feel it for awhile.

D.J. Moore might have been worth a 1st in terms of trade value, but what was his real value to us on the field with Sam Darnold and P.J. Walker throwing to him?

And two 2nds can also be equal to YGM and Terrace Marshall, Jr. Picks are only as valuable as the players you use them on. It's about building a team, not a collection of draft picks.

There are ways to add talent without a 1st round pick. We can trade up, trade for a player, sign free agents, etc.

Those moves better work out, yes, but that would be just as true if we had drafted our QB at #9 and still had our 1st next year.

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5 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

D.J. Moore might have been worth a 1st in terms of trade value, but what was his real value to us on the field with Sam Darnold and P.J. Walker throwing to him?

And two 2nds can also be equal to YGM and Terrace Marshall, Jr. Picks are only as valuable as the players you use them on. It's about building a team, not a collection of draft picks.

There are ways to add talent without a 1st round pick. We can trade up, trade for a player, sign free agents, etc.

Those moves better work out, yes, but that would be just as true if we had drafted our QB at #9 and still had our 1st next year.

Or two 2nds can be Davonte Adams and Ryan Khalil. Teams build through the draft. You need to get those players on rookie contracts. Trading costs. FAs costs. Draft picks are cheap. 1st and 2nds are gold when building a team. 

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3 hours ago, cmichd08 said:

Sitting didn't seem to hurt Love in Green Bay did it. He even had his troubles too, but he did lead Green Bay back from a 17 point deficit did he not. Young is not ready. Maybe later.

I’m not sold on Love at all. He’s barely completing 50% of his passes through three games. 

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32 minutes ago, Varking said:

I’m not sold on Love at all. He’s barely completing 50% of his passes through three games. 

I didn't say I was either. My point is that Young needs to see how the Pro game is played . He saw what Dalton can do with the same line he has. Young in a year or 2 could be a fine QB but today he sucks and ruining his confidence because he has to play is not worth it. in 4 or 5 games let him go out on the field and sling it around. See how he does. If he is having the same problems as today sit him again. He didn't learn anything but having him get killed. We saw what happen to Carr when he was pounded on for a solid two years in Texas. He was a number one pick also. How did that work for him.

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12 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Or two 2nds can be Davonte Adams and Ryan Khalil. Teams build through the draft. You need to get those players on rookie contracts. Trading costs. FAs costs. Draft picks are cheap. 1st and 2nds are gold when building a team. 

That's my point; those picks can be great players, good players, or busts. Either way you have to hit on your picks outside the 1st round to be successful. If we still had our 1st rounder next year and ended up drafting a stud with it that's great, but if we keep missing on all these picks outside the 1st round it likely won't matter much in the long run.

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Y'all downers gotta chill, MIA was built up over 3 YEARS, Flores had Tua on the bench behint Fitzmagic, then they added Waddle Year 2 after Flores was fired, and traded for Hill in year 3, and signed Armstead etc.

We're literally heading into Week 4. This was never a season where playoffs was to be expected. This is all about getting Bryce developed for what's to come. 

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11 hours ago, thennek said:

I am more concerned about Bryce’s bulk/frame than his height. People compare him to Drew Brees or Russell Wilson or Murray size but these guys have more bulk and more solidly built.  Bryce looks very skinny 

You don’t think the frame of a high schooler can handle an Aaron Donald come crashing in

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On 9/25/2023 at 10:22 AM, LinvilleGorge said:

They have the most talented offense in the NFL. We traded our only legit WR and a ton of draft capital to go get our franchise QB. When you make a move like that it's because you think you're getting a guy that you don't have to surround with elite talent because your ability to do so is going to be severely limited. We're going to have to be wizards in FA and the mid-late rounds to make this experiment work. 

Yep. And we aren't going to be "wizards" with Fitterer. 

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