The NFL needs better research staff (YouTube / Sunday Ticket-related)

[AceBoogie]

2 minutes ago, t96 said:

I'm outside the carolinas too and only give a poo about the Panthers, Sunday Ticket is a huge ripoff and I feel like such a huge sucker for paying for it especially a year like this where we suck. Through comcast I get the nhl & nba combo package which I only use for Hornets and Canes for like $150 a year, which is very reasonable. I think I could add baseball to that for cheap but don't care about it. NFL is the only league fuging over their customers like this but unless we start speaking with our wallets collectively nothing will change and I'm guilty of paying for sunday ticket this year and probably will be a dumbass next year and do it too.

I refuse to pay for it, but understand why you would. It really is a scam by making you pay for every single out of market game. It’s the same as cable companies making you pay for the history channel when you really only want espn. 

[Tbe]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Oh, I agree. It's not going to happen. I do find it curious how much stringent capitalists can openly embrace a system that is outright socialist though. It's an interesting phenomenon.

Why? They are all part of the same business and rely on each other to survive.

Is it weird that each McDonald’s franchise owner isn’t trying to outcompete and shut down the other franchise down the street? 

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

I refuse to pay for it, but understand why you would. It really is a scam by making you pay for every single out of market game. It’s the same as cable companies making you pay for the history channel when you really only want espn. 

I mean, they give you a lot worse than the History Channel.  Point taken though.  But maybe tune in to the history channel instead of a Panther game and you might just be like.....History Channel ain't that bad lol.   Or maybe that comes in time and you ain't old enough yet lol. 

[AceBoogie]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I mean, they give you a lot worse than the History Channel.  Point taken though.  But maybe tune in to the history channel instead of a Panther game and you might just be like.....History Channel ain't that bad lol.   Or maybe that comes in time and you ain't old enough yet lol. 

I used history channel as an example. I would actually pay for this history channel, one of my favorites. 

[LinvilleGorge]

27 minutes ago, Tbe said:

Why? They are all part of the same business and rely on each other to survive.

Is it weird that each McDonald’s franchise owner isn’t trying to outcompete and shut down the other franchise down the street? 

They would be if the franchise themselves didn't build in protections. What they've started to do more and more in recent years is requiring you not to just buy one location but to buy an entire region.

[t96]

1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

I refuse to pay for it, but understand why you would. It really is a scam by making you pay for every single out of market game. It’s the same as cable companies making you pay for the history channel when you really only want espn. 

I'm just not a fan of the illegal streaming -- not due to some moral stance, just I've never had it be reliable and when I want to watch a sporting event I want to sit down and enjoy it not get pissed because it freezes up and I miss plays, dealing with ads, etc. Before I started using sunday ticket a couple years ago I just went to bars every sunday for Panthers games but that wound up being a serious hassle and more expensive than paying for sunday ticket and beers/grilling at home. I was fortunate to borrow a college student's email for that before youtube bought the rights, I think it was like $150 for the student package which was better, but youtube tv I think I paid $300, maybe $400, don't remember

[AceBoogie]

2 hours ago, t96 said:

I'm just not a fan of the illegal streaming -- not due to some moral stance, just I've never had it be reliable and when I want to watch a sporting event I want to sit down and enjoy it not get pissed because it freezes up and I miss plays, dealing with ads, etc. Before I started using sunday ticket a couple years ago I just went to bars every sunday for Panthers games but that wound up being a serious hassle and more expensive than paying for sunday ticket and beers/grilling at home. I was fortunate to borrow a college student's email for that before youtube bought the rights, I think it was like $150 for the student package which was better, but youtube tv I think I paid $300, maybe $400, don't remember

Who said anything about illegal streaming lol. 
 

I do hear all you need is a little patience, flexibility on your definition of “live”, and a good ad blocker. 

[jasonluckydog]

7 hours ago, Cullenator said:

Whats the most you would pay for an single game on TV?  Assume its the same broadcast with the same commercials.

 

 

Three fiddy

[jasonluckydog]

4 hours ago, AceBoogie said:

I used history channel as an example. I would actually pay for this history channel, one of my favorites. 

Those Ancient Aliens are a sneaky bunch.

[PanthersATL]

YouTube is slated to lose $1.27b each year running Sunday Ticket.  ($570m in revenue, $1.77b in NFL fees)

source: https://www.sportico.com/business/media/2023/youtube-google-nfl-sunday-ticket-billions-in-losses-1234743626/ 

[scpanther22]

16 minutes ago, PanthersATL said:

YouTube is slated to lose $1.27b each year running Sunday Ticket.  ($570m in revenue, $1.77b in NFL fees)

source: https://www.sportico.com/business/media/2023/youtube-google-nfl-sunday-ticket-billions-in-losses-1234743626/ 

its kind of amazing how most of the streaming services keep taking on massive amounts of debt...they just raise the prices every year and layoff a quarter of their staff like clockwork

[WarHeel]

On 10/26/2023 at 6:13 AM, Cullenator said:

Whats the most you would pay for an single game on TV?  Assume its the same broadcast with the same commercials.

 

 

Id love an a la carte option but honestly I dont know that Id pay more than ~20 bucks per game which is pretty much what Sunday Ticket breaks down to.

Yeah but let’s say you get 4-5 games per season based on the local coverage of your area.  That’s $80-100 saved even at $20/game if you’re watching every game of the season. 

[top dawg]

The NFL is so full of sh¡t!  It seems like they'd rather take some reasonable money rather than no money. But that's on them. There are always free alternatives...

[Ornias]

I cut the cable 15 years ago and now do streaming. Streaming is so chopped it now that it is definitely more expensive than a cable package, however streaming is commercial free.