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Official Colts at Panthers Gameday Thread


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4 minutes ago, SmittysLawnGuy said:

Aged well

Yeah that’s why I quote tweeted myself saying my bad. Poo happens, can’t be right all the time. Many analyst were saying how good he was out of backfield this off-season, heck I think Frank said something about him being a three down back that can do it it all. Even in Philly he had 500 yards receiving, but hey thanks for calling me out. 

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Just now, Cdparr7 said:

Although Frank gets a lot of the blame. I still say Fitterer owns most of it. He’s the one that is supposed to be in control of the roster this year, and these guys are terrible. We have guys that wouldn’t even make other teams PS.

LaBryan Ray? Nick Thurman? 4 TEs? Really?

 

that’s not even mentioning all the other boneheaded decisions he’s made.

like just look at the team.

Agree..plus how many draft picks were traded for bad decisions 

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Just now, jayboogieman said:

For all the Stroud lovers, he would look just as bad as Young on this team. So would Richardson, Levis, Williams, Maye, and rookie Cam Newton. This team is just the perfect storm that ruins QBs.

But would Young look as good as Stroud? He setting records on a bad team

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5 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

If anyone wants an example of why our society is the way it is - you have a professional athlete like Sanders making like 30 million dollars and not earning one cent of it.  Basically a thief. 

he didn't write up that contract

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1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Eh, when does Frank swallow his pride and bench Bryce?  His eventual downfall here was his downfall in Indy.  He's too loyal to his QBs.  When it's not working, change it up.  We all know what they say about continuously doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

How is benching Bryce going to fix the run game or the defense or the OL, all of which have regressed under Reich?

I'm not even trying to get into a debate about Bryce.  But this entire team, top to bottom, looks worse than it ever did under Matt freakin' Rhule.  Reich is TERRIBLE.

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