What if, and hear me out here, Bryce Young is not actually some cerebral genius QB

[electro's horse]

This blurb about Aidan O'Connell caught my eye

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Yahoo Sports Insider Jason Fitz made an appearance on Raider Nation Radio’s Morning Tailgate, and talked about another area where O’Connell has exceeded expectations in his first NFL season.

“Coming up to the line of scrimmage, one of the most impressive things is that [O’Connell] has been able to shift protections. That is such a key,” Fitz said.

“To use an example of another quarterback, coming into the draft I was told by some people that know college football and cover the Alabama program that Bryce Young’s biggest issue was not anything physical, but he wasn’t great at figuring out how to shift protection for his offensive line. He needed to work on that. What we’ve seen this year is he gets sacked all the time. That’s a progression for a young quarterback.”

https://www.raidersbeat.com/respected-qb-coach-once-said-aidan-oconnell-is-the-most-accurate-quarterback-he-has-ever-coached/

On one hand you can believe that Bryce never had to learn how to adjust protections because he never had to do it at Alabama. But if he's so cerebral and understands the defenses (lol I know just humor me) why would he need experience with that? Moving offensive linemen around should be easy if you know what the protections are and where defenders are blitzing from. Yes playcalling bad, yes bad scheme sure. 

But we saw Bryce given a much freer hand earlier in the season with making adjustments and playcalls. He sucked at it. He frequently checked into nothing productive, or got sacked, or got a delay of game/had to use a timeout. They took away his ability to make those calls.

We know that Alabama is powerful in the sports media. We know Saban likes to get his players drafted in the first because it's a good recruitment tool. We know that the media will slobber all over Alabama QBs regardless of their talent (see Mac Jones' rookie year) or onfield behavior (Burns ankle). We've seen all announcers, including college guy Herbstreit, constantly go back to his processing, saying he has to move faster, and being shocked at the difference between Bryce in college and now. 

So what if it's all just bullshit? What if Bryce was an okay QB in a stacked offense? What if all this point guard nonsense was just a media narrative that benefited a powerful program/coach? Would certainly explain why Reich is looking like someone is pointing a gun at his family's head behind camera in every shot he's in. 

And if this was all just a media narrative to fill air space during broadcasts, it's no surprise Tepper's dumb ass fell for it. 

I'm sure the usual cohort of low tier posters are going to post the first tinfoil hat picture they can google, but at this point I'm starting to think it might be true. Bryce looks like he has no goddamn idea what's happening out there, or what the defense is doing, or where his receivers are going. Those two picks to Bates against Atlanta? Did the same poo against the Bears, they were just dropped. 

I dunno guys. Think we got less of a Tyrion and more of a Dopey.

Edited November 14, 2023 by electro's horse

[Mr. Scot]

Do we know for sure if he's tasked with doing that?

[rebelrouser]

11 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

This blurb about Aidan O'Connell caught my eye

https://www.raidersbeat.com/respected-qb-coach-once-said-aidan-oconnell-is-the-most-accurate-quarterback-he-has-ever-coached/

On one hand you can believe that Bryce never had to learn how to adjust protections because he never had to do it at Alabama. But if he's so cerebral and understands the defenses (lol I know just humor me) why would he need experience with that? Moving offensive linemen around should be easy if you know what the protections are and where defenders are blitzing from. Yes playcalling bad, yes bad scheme sure. 

But we saw Bryce given a much freer hand earlier in the season with making adjustments and playcalls. He sucked at it. He frequently checked into nothing productive, or got sacked, or got a delay of game/had to use a timeout. They took away his ability to make those calls.

We know that Alabama is powerful in the sports media. We know Saban likes to get his players drafted in the first because it's a good recruitment tool. We know that the media will slobber all over Alabama QBs regardless of their talent (see Mac Jones' rookie year) or onfield behavior (Burns ankle). We've seen all announcers, including college guy Herbstreit, constantly go back to his processing, saying he has to move faster, and being shocked at the difference between Bryce in college and now. 

So what if it's all just bullshit? What if Bryce was an okay QB in a stacked offense? What if all this point guard nonsense was just a media narrative that benefited a powerful program/coach? Would certainly explain why Reich is looking like someone is pointing a gun at his family's head behind camera in every shot he's in. 

And if this was all just a media narrative to fill air space during broadcasts, it's no surprise Tepper's dumb ass fell for it. 

I'm sure the usual cohort of low tier posters are going to post the first tinfoil hat picture they can google, but at this point I'm starting to think it might be true. Bryce looks like he has no goddamn idea what's happening out there, or what the defense is doing, or where his receivers are going. Those two picks to Bates against Atlanta? Did the same poo against the Bears, they were just dropped. 

I dunno guys. Think we got less of a Tyrion and more of a Dopey.

So you don't watch college football do you?

[The Natural]

Eh, at the end of the day, cerebral or not he's still just a rookie on a horrific team. I think of all the things we can pass judgment on his intellect is not one of them. His test scores were too good for me to think he's dumb.

[AceBoogie]

You’re an idiot. 

[tukafan21]

What if, and just hear me out, he just isn't a good QB

 

[KatsAzz]

2 minutes ago, The Natural said:

Eh, at the end of the day, cerebral or not he's still just a rookie on a horrific team. I think of all the things we can pass judgment on his intellect is not one of them. His test scores were too good for me to think he's dumb.

Exactly. Passing judgement on a rookie QB playing on the worst team in the NFL is not the proper or wise thing to do.

 

[electro's horse]

3 minutes ago, The Natural said:

Eh, at the end of the day, cerebral or not he's still just a rookie on a horrific team. I think of all the things we can pass judgment on his intellect is not one of them. His test scores were too good for me to think he's dumb.

No one is talking about his intellect. 

And there's another QB down in houston who has something to say about his "test scores." 

[electro's horse]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Do we know for sure if he's tasked with doing that?

I'm not sure anyone, staff included, know who's tasked with doing what. 

[RJK]

He’s limited physically and def seems limited mentally. Looks like Tepper got sold another lemon 

[TheSpecialJuan]

35 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

This blurb about Aidan O'Connell caught my eye

https://www.raidersbeat.com/respected-qb-coach-once-said-aidan-oconnell-is-the-most-accurate-quarterback-he-has-ever-coached/

On one hand you can believe that Bryce never had to learn how to adjust protections because he never had to do it at Alabama. But if he's so cerebral and understands the defenses (lol I know just humor me) why would he need experience with that? Moving offensive linemen around should be easy if you know what the protections are and where defenders are blitzing from. Yes playcalling bad, yes bad scheme sure. 

But we saw Bryce given a much freer hand earlier in the season with making adjustments and playcalls. He sucked at it. He frequently checked into nothing productive, or got sacked, or got a delay of game/had to use a timeout. They took away his ability to make those calls.

We know that Alabama is powerful in the sports media. We know Saban likes to get his players drafted in the first because it's a good recruitment tool. We know that the media will slobber all over Alabama QBs regardless of their talent (see Mac Jones' rookie year) or onfield behavior (Burns ankle). We've seen all announcers, including college guy Herbstreit, constantly go back to his processing, saying he has to move faster, and being shocked at the difference between Bryce in college and now. 

So what if it's all just bullshit? What if Bryce was an okay QB in a stacked offense? What if all this point guard nonsense was just a media narrative that benefited a powerful program/coach? Would certainly explain why Reich is looking like someone is pointing a gun at his family's head behind camera in every shot he's in. 

And if this was all just a media narrative to fill air space during broadcasts, it's no surprise Tepper's dumb ass fell for it. 

I'm sure the usual cohort of low tier posters are going to post the first tinfoil hat picture they can google, but at this point I'm starting to think it might be true. Bryce looks like he has no goddamn idea what's happening out there, or what the defense is doing, or where his receivers are going. Those two picks to Bates against Atlanta? Did the same poo against the Bears, they were just dropped. 

I dunno guys. Think we got less of a Tyrion and more of a Dopey.

[USDepartmentOfSavagery]

Bryce was a phenomenal college qb. There is no denying that or that him and Williams was pretty much it for the Alabama offense. Why that hasn’t translated to the NFL so far is what’s currently being debated. 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

Is Bryce Young the George Costanza of football?

[AceBoogie]

1 hour ago, USDepartmentOfSavagery said:

Bryce was a phenomenal college qb. There is no denying that or that him and Williams was pretty much it for the Alabama offense. Why that hasn’t translated to the NFL so far is what’s currently being debated. 

Because there are guys at Alabama that would play over some of the guys we have on offense