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Call Your Shot 11/27/23 Edition: Who is the next HC of the Panthers?


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30 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Kellen Moore is one of the least experienced options out there.

Also probably worth mentioning that the Cowboys haven't missed a beat without him while the new team he went to is set to fire their head coach also.

This is what we think Tepper will do, not what I would do. The Tepper thing to do is ignore what he has done in Dallas or LA.

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1 minute ago, Thompcat said:

This is what we think Tepper will do, not what I would do. The Tepper thing to do is ignore what he has done in Dallas or LA.

Fair...

7 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

Staley is going to get fired more because his defense is ass and he's the one calling plays than anything.

Understood, but it's also true that Dallas moved on without him and didn't miss a beat (arguably got better).

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3 hours ago, demcj said:

with no one else wanting to come here, right now it's his only realistic shot at landing a head coaching position.

in the end...he changes the culture of the team making it more attractive to future coaching candidates, and raises his own stock at the same time.

Maybe so...but he maybe too full to swallow his pride.

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1 hour ago, AU-panther said:

So what is a good metric?  Since points don’t  mean anything in a football game 

It's not that points don't mean anything. But looking at that number and going "awful defense" isn't necessarily true. 

If a team has a good offense and gives up 26 points per game defensively, that is far worse than a team that has an offense that scores I TD per game but gives up (on average) 26 points per game. In this scenario, the bad offense team has a measurably better defense than the good offense team.

 

Does this make sense for you?

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