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16 minutes ago, mc52beast said:

I don’t get Reich. He’s smart enough to see a blocking scheme isn’t working so why continue to ask your line to do something they can’t do knowing it’s costing you games.

I think Reich took the job and nothing but Ls from Tepper and gave up.  Think he realized quick he had no actual control and power and phoned it all in.  

He didn’t get the QB he wanted.  Got to wonder about other players and coaches too.  And he had weekly Tepper talks he clearly didn’t enjoy that were probably discussions influenced by Tepper moles all over his staff. 

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1 hour ago, CRA said:

I think Reich took the job and nothing but Ls from Tepper and gave up.  Think he realized quick he had no actual control and power and phoned it all in.  

He didn’t get the QB he wanted.  Got to wonder about other players and coaches too.  And he had weekly Tepper talks he clearly didn’t enjoy that were probably discussions influenced by Tepper moles all over his staff. 

Put like that.I'd take the easy out too.  No wonder the guy looked absolutely miserable.

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2 hours ago, CRA said:

I think Reich took the job and nothing but Ls from Tepper and gave up.  Think he realized quick he had no actual control and power and phoned it all in.  

He didn’t get the QB he wanted.  Got to wonder about other players and coaches too.  And he had weekly Tepper talks he clearly didn’t enjoy that were probably discussions influenced by Tepper moles all over his staff. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/panthers/comments/19essl4/scott_fowler_i_will_tell_you_that_frank_reich_was/

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12 hours ago, mc52beast said:

I don’t get Reich. He’s smart enough to see a blocking scheme isn’t working so why continue to ask your line to do something they can’t do knowing it’s costing you games.

I don't think he gave a poo honestly. I feel like he just got settled and decided he didn't really give a poo and was just going to enjoy making some great money and coasting.

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21 hours ago, RumHam said:

tepper wants a pass happy offense. canales doesn't power run game. might as well delete this thread.

Has he actually said this?  I mean he has one year as a OC, so as far as past results, one can't really say what he likes.  Seattle certainly had a power run game in its Super Bowl years, so he does have an association with it.  

If he is smart, he will adjust to what his team does best, whether that is a power run, a pass happy offense, or some combination thereof.  

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11 hours ago, Growl said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/panthers/comments/19essl4/scott_fowler_i_will_tell_you_that_frank_reich_was/

I'm still not willing to buy in on a reporters word of having it all figured out.   And I don't doubt that Frank was singing the company line at the end of it.   I think in the end, everyone was universally backing the pick once the decision was made.  Other reporting details the there was a clear in house split on it.   And I don't think any voices that weren't big voices would have been reported on in references to a split. 

Same time the Panthers were debating, a lot of Frank world people were talking about how CJ was the Frank Reich prototype and ideal QB. 

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3 hours ago, CRA said:

I'm still not willing to buy in on a reporters word of having it all figured out.   And I don't doubt that Frank was singing the company line at the end of it.   I think in the end, everyone was universally backing the pick once the decision was made.  Other reporting details the there was a clear in house split on it.   And I don't think any voices that weren't big voices would have been reported on in references to a split. 

Same time the Panthers were debating, a lot of Frank world people were talking about how CJ was the Frank Reich prototype and ideal QB. 

you don’t have to buy it but it’s absolutely the most objective narrative and the only counter argument is “but you’ve gotta understand that Matt Ryan is tall”

the team told the story of how the decision made in the middle of the honey moon phase, Fowler corroborates what they told us here

frank reich wanted Bryce young 

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5 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Has he actually said this?  I mean he has one year as a OC, so as far as past results, one can't really say what he likes.  Seattle certainly had a power run game in its Super Bowl years, so he does have an association with it.  

If he is smart, he will adjust to what his team does best, whether that is a power run, a pass happy offense, or some combination thereof.  

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On 2/5/2024 at 12:32 AM, Jmac said:

Obvious the Oline can not zone block or handle lateral blocking schemes. They excell at straight ahead run blocking and building the pass game off of that.

Trying to fit a square peg in a round hole is pointless. Don't waste another season trying to force the issue. Hubbard is a good back who can hit the hole and follow his blockers.

The other dude "not to be named" has shown me nothing. Pick up a power back in the draft and start getting back to what they did best. 

These same guys blocked well for Wilks and ran the ball well. Reich came in and tried to get fancy and fugged it all up. Don't fix it if it ain't broke.

Pick up some road graders and start kicking ass and taking names again.

 

This is why I don't think we are in bad shape when it comes to our O-line.  We just need to get back to a normal blocking scheme instead of zone blocking crap.  I think that if we go back to a straight up blocking scheme all our O-line problems will disappear.  I've said it numerous times, It just doesn't make sense that our O-line was supposed to be a strength in 2023 and they turned out to be awful.  I blame it on the scheme not the players, at least to a point.  

Between injuries and having to learn a new scheme didn't help us at all.  I want us to find a Pacheco style running back.  This guy fell to the 7th round.  He's one of the hardest running backs I have seen in football in a long time.  The guy just doesn't go down on the first hit.   Put that type of player in a straight up blocking scheme and you're going to have a 1000+ Yd Running Back. 

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7 hours ago, CRA said:

Same time the Panthers were debating, a lot of Frank world people were talking about how CJ was the Frank Reich prototype and ideal QB. 

 

3 hours ago, Growl said:

frank reich wanted Bryce young 

People really need to quit saying he wanted Stroud because he has ideal size. Until Reich comes out and flatly states which he preferred or wanted, this is all conjecture, and it doesn't do any good to claim he wasn't sold on Young since the only official statement that has been made was that Frank was sold on Young.

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35 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

"Power run scheme" = Jeff Fisher ball. No thanks.

And John Fox ball, and Ron Rivera ball...

We've seen that mediocre style of football for over 20 years and it's produced mostly losing seasons. I agree with Roosevelt. Let's try something else.

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