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Grades are in; how did Panthers do in this years draft

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This was a complete poo show, which is just my opinion of course.  However, this opinion will become fact in a few months and the kool aid drinkers will act like blind squirrels find acorns.  We did nothing to help ourselves in the draft.

A first round WR with FOUR dud years in college.  Yeah he’ll be a difference maker against pros with BY at QB.  Dude has heavy feet out the gate which isn’t what we need.

An injured RB that will take three years to hold Chubba’s jock.

Sanders might be the best pick of our draft.  But only because we’re awful at the position and BY should be a TE friendly QB.  Too bad he can’t catch and block because we need both.

Anything good after that would be a happy accident.  The Panthers drafted with the same mentality they’ve had for years.  Buy cheap and hope for value.  It stinks of someone who treats a football team like the stock market, trying to outsmart the next guy and make an easy profit.

The only real fix here is coaching up players with extraordinary physical attributes, that’s the NFL.  Instead we try to draft “impact” players with marginal and even questionable physical attributes in the name of value.  My only real hope this season is that we could find a rudder on the coaching side and establish some consistency somewhere in the org.  This reeks of a David Tepper influenced draft though.

Take a receipt, I’ll be here to happily take my medicine should our merry band of clowns accidentally got something right.

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We live in a society where we expect results immediately.  Like in Idiocracy, when they finally start watering the crops it takes time for them to grow.  Snap judgments aren't productive, but they sure do get the clicks.  From the good "I love the confirmation that my team did awesome!"  Or the outrage "I can't believe they graded us too poorly!"

As I said in another post, for D&D, this is their job on the line.  I don't think any team intentionally tries to fug up their draft.  We'll have to wait and see.  Considering how poor our drafts have been lately, despite getting some good press, let's see what they cooked up.

The Panthers were much more concerned with developing the culture first.  Get their vision of what a Carolina Panther is instead of the cute and sexy draft value picks.  We'll see if it works.

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Obviously drafts can’t be evaluated for a few years before you know what you got, but just going off what we know right now anyone hating on this draft is either ignorant or willfully miserable. The big complaints defending Bryce (a lot of it in the media, the same people shitting on our draft) were that our OL sucked and Bryce didn’t have any weapons. We heavily invested in the OL in FA, brought in a separation machine via trade, and spent this draft plugging every conceivable hole in the weapons for Bryce. I get if you wanted McConkey or someone other than XL, but we already have McConkey’s role on the team. We didn’t have a XL role and he’s inarguably the highest potential of anyone in the draft at his role. Whining about one year of production ignoring the factors that lead to it is the definition of ignorance.  Even if you preferred a different WR, the worst you could give that pick is a B.  Surrounding a young QB with weapons is how everyone agrees it should be done, so doing that rather than backfilling depth spots at CB or edge is not a poor strategy. We got at least three guys that should be starting before the end of the year, maybe four depending on the LB we took in the 3rd. Our LB position was weaker than CB or edge rusher. 

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6 hours ago, Newtcase said:

This was a complete poo show, which is just my opinion of course.  However, this opinion will become fact in a few months and the kool aid drinkers will act like blind squirrels find acorns.  We did nothing to help ourselves in the draft.

A first round WR with FOUR dud years in college.  Yeah he’ll be a difference maker against pros with BY at QB.  Dude has heavy feet out the gate which isn’t what we need.

An injured RB that will take three years to hold Chubba’s jock.

Sanders might be the best pick of our draft.  But only because we’re awful at the position and BY should be a TE friendly QB.  Too bad he can’t catch and block because we need both.

Anything good after that would be a happy accident.  The Panthers drafted with the same mentality they’ve had for years.  Buy cheap and hope for value.  It stinks of someone who treats a football team like the stock market, trying to outsmart the next guy and make an easy profit.

The only real fix here is coaching up players with extraordinary physical attributes, that’s the NFL.  Instead we try to draft “impact” players with marginal and even questionable physical attributes in the name of value.  My only real hope this season is that we could find a rudder on the coaching side and establish some consistency somewhere in the org.  This reeks of a David Tepper influenced draft though.

Take a receipt, I’ll be here to happily take my medicine should our merry band of clowns accidentally got something right.

I stopped reading when you said Sanders can’t catch 

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6 hours ago, Newtcase said:

This was a complete poo show, which is just my opinion of course.  However, this opinion will become fact in a few months and the kool aid drinkers will act like blind squirrels find acorns.  We did nothing to help ourselves in the draft.

A first round WR with FOUR dud years in college.  Yeah he’ll be a difference maker against pros with BY at QB.  Dude has heavy feet out the gate which isn’t what we need.

An injured RB that will take three years to hold Chubba’s jock.

Sanders might be the best pick of our draft.  But only because we’re awful at the position and BY should be a TE friendly QB.  Too bad he can’t catch and block because we need both.

Anything good after that would be a happy accident.  The Panthers drafted with the same mentality they’ve had for years.  Buy cheap and hope for value.  It stinks of someone who treats a football team like the stock market, trying to outsmart the next guy and make an easy profit.

The only real fix here is coaching up players with extraordinary physical attributes, that’s the NFL.  Instead we try to draft “impact” players with marginal and even questionable physical attributes in the name of value.  My only real hope this season is that we could find a rudder on the coaching side and establish some consistency somewhere in the org.  This reeks of a David Tepper influenced draft though.

Take a receipt, I’ll be here to happily take my medicine should our merry band of clowns accidentally got something right.

Some real strange takes here. Brooks taking 3 years to hold Chubas jock? Lol. Sanders can’t catch? Lol. Expecting anything but happy accidents in rounds 5-7? Lol. Saying they drafted players with marginal/questionable physical attributes? Lol. If you’re gonna try to dog on folks just for not being as negative as you, at least be accurate in your reasons for being negative. 

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39 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Obviously drafts can’t be evaluated for a few years before you know what you got, but just going off what we know right now anyone hating on this draft is either ignorant or willfully miserable. The big complaints defending Bryce (a lot of it in the media, the same people shitting on our draft) were that our OL sucked and Bryce didn’t have any weapons. We heavily invested in the OL in FA, brought in a separation machine via trade, and spent this draft plugging every conceivable hole in the weapons for Bryce. I get if you wanted McConkey or someone other than XL, but we already have McConkey’s role on the team. We didn’t have a XL role and he’s inarguably the highest potential of anyone in the draft at his role. Whining about one year of production ignoring the factors that lead to it is the definition of ignorance.  Even if you preferred a different WR, the worst you could give that pick is a B.  Surrounding a young QB with weapons is how everyone agrees it should be done, so doing that rather than backfilling depth spots at CB or edge is not a poor strategy. We got at least three guys that should be starting before the end of the year, maybe four depending on the LB we took in the 3rd. Our LB position was weaker than CB or edge rusher. 

Not to mention, the trade back in the 2nd was A++ in terms of value to pick up a future 2nd to move back 13 spots. The trade up for Legette was also excellent. Even if you hate the picks, the draft itself was extremely successful. They got the top RB in the whole draft in the middle of the second round. A RAS monster at WR. They got who many had as TE 2, a contested catch machine with ZERO drops, in the 4th. Another explosive RAS guy at LB to develop behind Thompson and Jewell. And we’ve got whiners in here saying we got no physical traits, a TE who can’t catch, and a RB who won’t start for 3 years. People just determined to complain whether they even know what they’re complaining about or not.

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Sometimes it’s obvious that we made a ton of reaches, panicked, got fleeced in trades or on the rare occasion got great value and nailed a draft.

This year, we landed promising talent, mostly around their projected spots per consensus. Made some nice dealings, gained a pick back next year and ended up with a draftee in every round 1-7z

I like the guys we drafted, we got every offensive skill player (RB, WR, TE) for the worst offense in the league. Landed a a really high ceiling LB fitted for our defense, and some developmental DBs and a DL. Not bad. 

First draft in a while where I’m not walking away scratching my head.

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14 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Draft grades are just something for the media to talk about. Not gonna lie, not super excited about our draft but we'll see how they turn out.

It's just "how much did you like these players for this team given their situation."

The draft re-grade articles a few years down the line are always interesting. 

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