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CBS does not think Bryce makes the leap


Jackie Lee
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Ranks Bryce no.4 behind Stroud/AR/Levis

I just don't feel it with Young. And what do I mean by that? Well, firstly, I didn't see any flashes from Young as a rookie. You know, a few games-- maybe not even consecutively -- where he looked confident and poised and that combination led to quality results. 

There was the 300-plus-yard effort late in the season against Green Bay that stood out. But even if that game was encouraging, it was thoroughly outweighed by disastrous performances. In my weekly grading project of the first- and second-year quarterbacks in 2023, Young had one "A" grade and two grades in the "B" range. All of his other starts ranged from a "C+" to an "F."

Yes, that Packers game was impressive; it's just too difficult for me to see him repeating that type of performance on a regular basis because of his lack of physical tools. He doesn't have a strong arm by NFL standards. It's not brutal, but it's not doing him favors frequently. He's a good athlete but not nearly dynamic enough to repeatedly make defenders miss or scamper away from oncoming defenders often. His accuracy and processing are his two strengths, but neither are so spectacular they negate his hard-to-improve weaknesses.

The Panthers did make somewhat of a concerted effort to build around him, trading for underneath separator Diontae Johnson in March before moving up in the draft to select South Carolina's Xavier Legette. I still think Carolina's receiver group will struggle to collectively get open, but the offensive line should be sturdier with free-agent adds Robert Hunt at right guard and Damien Lewis at left guard. 

I don't have enough belief in Young's tools, nor the roster in Carolina, to predict Young making a leap in Year 2. 

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5 minutes ago, amcoolio said:

I mean if the Panthers are drafting in the top 3 next year then its a lock they are taking a QB, because that would mean Bryce isn't the guy. No team that has the one of the worst records two years in a row keeps their QB after that

Right?

I haven't bailed the Bryce boat yet, but come week 5 or 6 he has shown zero improvement I'll be ready to take whoever the new hotness is at that point.

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10 minutes ago, Manna said:

I don’t think he does either, but this was the year to get a QB (if only we had made the right selection). Not last year. I don’t even know who’s available in 2025. 

I'd rather have Stroud than anyone in the recent draft

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It's so bad that the guys talking about the next draft are on point when the rest are just selling hope for a few months of clicks and another top 5 pick even with him improving from historically bad to just regular bad.

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1 hour ago, Jackie Lee said:

Ranks Bryce no.4 behind Stroud/AR/Levis

I just don't feel it with Young. And what do I mean by that? Well, firstly, I didn't see any flashes from Young as a rookie. You know, a few games-- maybe not even consecutively -- where he looked confident and poised and that combination led to quality results. 

There was the 300-plus-yard effort late in the season against Green Bay that stood out. But even if that game was encouraging, it was thoroughly outweighed by disastrous performances. In my weekly grading project of the first- and second-year quarterbacks in 2023, Young had one "A" grade and two grades in the "B" range. All of his other starts ranged from a "C+" to an "F."

Yes, that Packers game was impressive; it's just too difficult for me to see him repeating that type of performance on a regular basis because of his lack of physical tools. He doesn't have a strong arm by NFL standards. It's not brutal, but it's not doing him favors frequently. He's a good athlete but not nearly dynamic enough to repeatedly make defenders miss or scamper away from oncoming defenders often. His accuracy and processing are his two strengths, but neither are so spectacular they negate his hard-to-improve weaknesses.

The Panthers did make somewhat of a concerted effort to build around him, trading for underneath separator Diontae Johnson in March before moving up in the draft to select South Carolina's Xavier Legette. I still think Carolina's receiver group will struggle to collectively get open, but the offensive line should be sturdier with free-agent adds Robert Hunt at right guard and Damien Lewis at left guard. 

I don't have enough belief in Young's tools, nor the roster in Carolina, to predict Young making a leap in Year 2. 

excellent news 

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