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Bryce Young can have a breakout season in 2024


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2 hours ago, MechaZain said:

Really wish y'all would get over the dude's height already. There's no stat that shows a correlation between height and performance for QBs.  There's plenty else we can criticize Young for without constantly harping on him being short. Cam set unrealistic expectations for this fanbase.

r/dataisbeautiful - [OC] NFL quarterback's % of passes batted down compared to height (in inches...sorry 50% of Reddit)

 

I don’t harp on his height, but it is a factor as is his size. He has a lot to overcome. So we’ll see. 

Talking about stats correlating... to say there are no stats correlating, how many QBs his size are there to garner stats from in the first place? Is that a fair question? 

There aren’t like, any comps in the modern day that come to mind I’m probably forgetting someone but besides Murray.... ?

Imma joke, it’s hard to bat a ball down when they are throwing it sideways OB. But that ain’t the real risk it happens with all of them. 

 

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As long as he can CONSISTENTLY avoid having games like he did against the Saints, Chargers, Broncos, Bucs, Eagles and Cowboys then he may have a shot at a breakout season in 2025.

He was benched and didn't beat a winning team while getting thumped by the Cowboys, Eagles and Bucs in 4 of his last 6 games. That's not a breakout. He had a complete and consistent game to end the season on a good note with a little flash and no crash.

Young has had 1 win against a winning team in 28 games. Baseline for a breakout season is 8 wins with at least 3 against winning teams(1 on the road), and a 3 game winning streak.

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14 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

As long as he can CONSISTENTLY avoid having games like he did against the Saints, Chargers, Broncos, Bucs, Eagles and Cowboys then he may have a shot at a breakout season in 2025.

He was benched and didn't beat a winning team while getting thumped by the Cowboys, Eagles and Bucs in 4 of his last 6 games. That's not a breakout. He had a complete and consistent game to end the season on a good note with a little flash and no crash.

Young has had 1 win against a winning team in 28 games. Baseline for a breakout season is 8 wins with at least 3 against winning teams(1 on the road), and a 3 game winning streak.

If Legette catches the ball we beat the Eagles. If the defense stops Mahomes from marching down the field in less than a minute, we beat the Chiefs. If Chuba doesn't fumble in OT, we beat the Bucs in round 1. Three playoff teams against whom Bryce did enough to get us the win. 

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48 minutes ago, travisura said:

If Legette catches the ball we beat the Eagles. If the defense stops Mahomes from marching down the field in less than a minute, we beat the Chiefs. If Chuba doesn't fumble in OT, we beat the Bucs in round 1. Three playoff teams against whom Bryce did enough to get us the win. 

Not to mention that counting Ws only on the QB when your defense gives up 31 points a game is just.... yeah 

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1 hour ago, travisura said:

If Legette catches the ball we beat the Eagles. If the defense stops Mahomes from marching down the field in less than a minute, we beat the Chiefs. If Chuba doesn't fumble in OT, we beat the Bucs in round 1. Three playoff teams against whom Bryce did enough to get us the win. 

Heads up that is pretty much a troll account. He rambles about nonsense..,

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3 hours ago, CPantherKing said:

As long as he can CONSISTENTLY avoid having games like he did against the Saints, Chargers, Broncos, Bucs, Eagles and Cowboys then he may have a shot at a breakout season in 2025.

He was benched and didn't beat a winning team while getting thumped by the Cowboys, Eagles and Bucs in 4 of his last 6 games. That's not a breakout. He had a complete and consistent game to end the season on a good note with a little flash and no crash.

Young has had 1 win against a winning team in 28 games. Baseline for a breakout season is 8 wins with at least 3 against winning teams(1 on the road), and a 3 game winning streak.

You're so cooked if Panthers get one of: Garrett Wilson, Tee Higgins, Chris Godwin, Davante Adams, Tet MacMillan, Tyler Warren, Luther Burden... not looking good for you. But yeah, i guess Bryce could regress if our skill position players continue to suck.

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3 hours ago, travisura said:

If Legette catches the ball we beat the Eagles. If the defense stops Mahomes from marching down the field in less than a minute, we beat the Chiefs. If Chuba doesn't fumble in OT, we beat the Bucs in round 1. Three playoff teams against whom Bryce did enough to get us the win. 

I will never understand the "he didn't beat x team" mantra.  Wins and losses are a team stat, not an individual stat.  

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3 hours ago, travisura said:

If Legette catches the ball we beat the Eagles. If the defense stops Mahomes from marching down the field in less than a minute, we beat the Chiefs. If Chuba doesn't fumble in OT, we beat the Bucs in round 1. Three playoff teams against whom Bryce did enough to get us the win. 

Before you make any effort to respond to this guys posts ever, just know that he believes he’s found a secret formula to find franchise QBs, and one of them that he’s hyped up is Desmond Ridder. 

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