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Official Panthers at Saints Game Day Thread

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strato Grand Master

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Just now, tukafan21 said:

The last time we had a chance at an Elite QB was Cam and we took him, I'd say it worked out well.

We could have taken Stroud, but even he wasn't expected to be that type of guy, or else the Bears would have kept the pick and took him themselves.

Show me a team that has had long term sustained success with a non elite QB prospect or getting lucky and hitting on a mid round QB (like a Russell Wilson with Seattle)?

It doesn't happen, you can't win in the NFL without a QB and you don't get a QB unless you have a high draft pick with elite options, or just flat out luck into a situation.  Trying to force a square peg into a round hole to get your QB solution NEVER works in this league.

I totally agree on that square peg. I also pointed out many times that if there IS an elite at the top, you cannot trade into it. They will never do it. 
But you take someone who isn’t a horrible NFL QB and put them into what this offense will be in 8 weeks of playing together, and you will be able to compete. 
We have a QB that is physically overwhelmed. 

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1 minute ago, Monrowed said:

Honestly, I don’t think it’s his fault. I think he’s running the offense that has been suggested that Bryce would be successful in. 

Canales deserves a chance to play football with his own QB he can pick in the draft. If he doesnt get that, Tepper is an idiot.

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