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Andy Dalton is a top 5 QB so far

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3 hours ago, t96 said:

We were all sick of Rivera being unable to adapt in the modern NFL, why in the world would we stick with a guy in the exact same mold who is just a poor man's version of Rivera. Wilks is an awesome human being, loved having him here pretty much the entire time he was here. Great leader of men and secondary coach. Despite it leading to a HC opportunity I thought he was in over his head in his year as DC here, but he did do well as interim HC. He was just never going to be the long term guy here. His style is just too old school. I prefer that style of football, hard nose defensive oriented game with special teams and time of possession focus and ground and pound on offense. I wish it was still around. But the modern NFL has adapted and coaches need to adapt with it to have success and win. Belichick who despite being a cheater is one of the top 3-5 HCs ever and dude ran the pats into the ground lately because of this same thing -- the game has passed him by. Wilks too. Just because Tepper has made even worse decisions since then does not mean that hiring Wilks permanently would've been a good move. It wouldn't have been. Our ceiling would've been occasional 10-11 win season and playoff berth and getting run off the field by elite teams in the playoffs but with most seasons missing the playoffs. Better than what we've gotten under Tepper sure but still not what we should be striving for.

What you said is true. I heard he had basically no offensive coaches to hire in his contact list. He was going to roll with ben freaking mcado. I can not comment on what carolian hires, but in past years coaches got hired not on themselves but who they bought with. If your goal is becoming a NFL HC, you need to have a list of "friends" committed to moving to a new location. 

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On 10/2/2024 at 9:51 PM, Gapanthersfan said:

This man has to be locked up for another 2-3 seasons to groom our current young talent and to groom his successor. People take for granted how fortunate this team right now to have a QB basically rescue this team from the brink of dark despair. 

To be honest he is a good QB but his grooming is very suspect. Granted Bryce Young is the only real QB he has worked with and that didn't turn out well. Bad teacher or is it a bad student.  

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59 minutes ago, jasonluckydog said:

To be honest he is a good QB but his grooming is very suspect. Granted Bryce Young is the only real QB he has worked with and that didn't turn out well. Bad teacher or is it a bad student.  

I’ll take bad student for $1000, please Alex.

but seriously, Bryce is exactly what everyone inwardly knows he is. If he blossoms with another team I’ll gladly eat my words but I don’t think I’ll have to. 

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4 hours ago, jasonluckydog said:

To be honest he is a good QB but his grooming is very suspect. Granted Bryce Young is the only real QB he has worked with and that didn't turn out well. Bad teacher or is it a bad student.  

Canales is supposed to be the QB whisperer, everyone he's coached except Bryce has stepped their game up. What could Dalton teach BY when Reich had him on the bench from the beginning of last camp? He can't teach him how to step up in the pocket or to throw a better deep ball if he's physically unable too. Let Canales get someone with the traits he's looking for to coach up and let Dalton show the next rookie how a vet NFL QB carries himself, studies, treats his teammates, all that stuff. 

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13 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Canales is supposed to be the QB whisperer, everyone he's coached except Bryce has stepped their game up. What could Dalton teach BY when Reich had him on the bench from the beginning of last camp? He can't teach him how to step up in the pocket or to throw a better deep ball if he's physically unable too. Let Canales get someone with the traits he's looking for to coach up and let Dalton show the next rookie how a vet NFL QB carries himself, studies, treats his teammates, all that stuff. 

In fairness, he has done this with veteran QB's who needed some tweaking. Also with talented guys.

We haven't seen him have success with a rookie before. 

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