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Tepper era biggest blunder…


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1.  Bryce.  Obviously. 

BUT my #2….is Baker.  Part of the reason Baker sucked is because we never let him be the dude.   And that’s what he is….he is the dude.  We should have never had the bogus Sam Darnold comp and just turned it over to this guy.  Look, he is the people’s quarterback!!!

Bryce, Sam, Andy, Teddy, etc ain’t doing that.  Only Baker and of course PJ Walker would consider putting in a fat lip because…they  are for the people. 

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5 minutes ago, Basbear said:

I disagree- Rhule.

If you hired Kevin Stefanski there would have been no need to trade up for tiny BY, cause panthers would have won enough games for playoffs. 

I was really just trying to find a way to post him putting in a dip on the sideline after a bad day 

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The revisionist history with Baker and Carolina is exhausting. Were the Panthers bad? Yes. But that was a different Baker with us. He was still the same cocky asshole as he was in Cleveland. Remember the t shirts he was pushing on social media before the Browns game?

He was humbled with us. Mightily. That more than anything is the catalyst that led to him switching up everything and becoming a better competitor a better teammate and a better leader.

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It was firing Rhule mid-season, I was infuriated when he did it and it was the first domino that lead to us being here right now.  We weren't going to win games with him as the HC and Tepper knew it so he made the move, but it was cutting off his nose to spite his face.

If we kept Rhule all season, we end up with the #1 pick of the draft all on our own, which means even if we still took Bryce, we still would have kept DJ and all those draft picks.  If we still take Bryce, he's still awful and we end up replacing him with the QB heavy draft from this past season since we would have still had our 2025 1st.  

If we went a different way and took Stroud, pairing him with DJ and whoever else we built the WR room around (which likely would have included Tank Dell, as remember, Stroud went to the Texans after they took him and asked them to draft Dell as they had built up a great chemistry working out together before the draft).

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