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DJ Moore set the franchise back YEARS by taking his helmet off.

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59 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

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Sorry, but Cam’s shoulder was already hurt. He’d had surgery pre 2017 for his injury in 2016.

That injury was completely avoided if the ref blows the play dead when it was obvious that KB touched the CB. The ref was 5 feet away and if a Tom Brady type QB was potentially going to get hit on a dangerous interception return, whistle blows. Cam was not protected in any 2016 game.

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1 hour ago, WhoKnows said:

Sorry, but Cam’s shoulder was already hurt. He’d had surgery pre 2017 for his injury in 2016.

That injury was completely avoided if the ref blows the play dead when it was obvious that KB touched the CB. The ref was 5 feet away and if a Tom Brady type QB was potentially going to get hit on a dangerous interception return, whistle blows. Cam was not protected in any 2016 game.

He was still able to play like Cam needed to play before that cheap shot by Watt. Can't tell me that didn't reinjure him. He was clearly not the same guy after that game.

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2 hours ago, Bear Hands said:

Even after that, it could have been salvaged..

Tepper should have wiped the slate clean once buying, instead of delaying the inevitable.  The whole "don't step on the org's toes year 1" approach killed us.  The 2019 season should have never happened the way it did.  

Cam's shoulder was gone at that point, but we didn't know until he bowed out for the season after the first few.  Kuechly was likely going to retire no matter what.  But you end Rivera at the close of 2018, we would have been positioned for Burrow/Herbert/Tua accordingly.  Simple as that.  

Yup. Rivera and Hurney both should have been gone after 2018. It was all downhill from there 

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18 hours ago, KSpan said:

Yup. Rivera and Hurney both should have been gone after 2018. It was all downhill from there 

It’s been catchup/reactive mode ever since. We’ve been patient when we shouldn’t have been, and impatient when we should’ve kept our chill. Just no real feel for savvy decision making. 

First major hire should have been the guy to really be the architect of the team with a vision and plan in mind. Whether it was a Roseman, Gutekunst or DeCosta type. He should have at the least sought that person during 2018 as he got used to ownership.

Tepper eventually thought he found his combo guy in Rhule and then Hurney could be his shoe-kissing lackey.

So poor choices and timing with HC/GM moves, playing merri-go-round with QBs, waiting too long to grab an LT, the list goes on. 

I will say, this year, it felt a little bit different so I’ll give Tepper an inch of credit— but they’ve got a lot more to keep building. Even if it feels a bit dummied down with the “dawg” thing, it’s at least something — Morgan/Canales seem in sync. 

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