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Who here was NOT HAPPY we won yesterday....


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I don't think we would take qb unless we were at the top of the draft. I think the trade up still stings a bit, so even being near the top would eliminate that possibility. The win is pointless, meaningless, feel good nothingness, but it is not as if we have any control over those things, or who this cursed franchise takes in the draft, and how much of a disappointment that player will eventually become.

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

The draft threads are going to be great debate as we only have 3 wrs on contract but our defense is fuging putrid.  Not sure what side we should be targeting honestly.  I can see the logic of either.

I think if we had ended up 4 we would almost have to have taken Graham because he was best value.   I think going in the back half of the top 10 opens things up to wr or a lot more value at edge in those spots.   I'm not one of those people who argue that it's better to pick later than early, but it doesn't open more options as far as players that have value at that pick.

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28 minutes ago, jtm said:

Can't change a culture where you encourage guys to not want to win all the time.  

Yep, it's like Terry Rozier said when he left the hornets.  They've got guys who are OK with losing.  Never going to be great once that attitude takes over a team.

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It’s all about the draft pick and what the team needed at the time. The Chiefs didn’t know Mahomes was gonna be the player that he became or they would have taken him in the first round. Mahomes was drafted to be a backup.

draft position doesn’t matter if your front office knows how to draft and develop players.

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1 minute ago, Panther53521 said:

It’s all about the draft pick and what the team needed at the time. The Chiefs didn’t know Mahomes was gonna be the player that he became or they would have taken him in the first round. Mahomes was drafted to be a backup.

draft position doesn’t matter if your front office knows how to draft and develop players.

lol wut?

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You have to learn as a team how to win, it doesn’t automagically happen when you restart next year. It’s not Madden

i still think we lose to the Bucs and Falcons because they’re desperate to win the division which means we’ll be back at #5 probably 

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Don't care if they won or lost. I'm so frustrated with Tepper and the FO, I have zero faith they would find their way out of a wet paper bag. 

This season was over the minute that no one thought there needed to be actual QB competition in camp. Bryce wasn't ready to start last year. He wasn't ready to start this year. We've wasted 2 seasons to figure out the obvious. 

Bryce is playing better and he may be a franchise QB and he may not. But once again we drafted guys early for potential instead of actually being able to do the job from day 1. 

Dan looks like Fitts 2.0 to me and I'm not at all convinced Tepper has stepped back and stopped interfering. I'm disgruntled, but 3 decades of poo GMs will do that. 

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2 hours ago, TheBigKat said:

Mark me down as someone who saw yesterday's win as pointless

I prefer the competitive losses then the pointless wins. We are now outside the top 5 and while we are more than one player away from turning this team around sometimes that one player CAN turn the team around

2020 

#6 Herbert

#7 Brown

 

2021

#7 Sewell

#8 Horn

 

 

Horn > Sewell

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