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I knew both were better than there clown show origination let them be here, Baker went in blind into Sean Mcvays system, and looked like Joe Montana 

After Darnold came back from injury, he looked like 2024 Darnold under Wilks , but we still let him go, betting the farm that Bryce would instantly be Patrick Mahommes(we all know how that turned out) 

 

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12 minutes ago, toldozer said:

Bryce Young took Week 8 against the ferocious secondary of the Denver Broncos to reacclimate to the NFL. Since then, he's been excellent. He is first in big-time throw percentage at 7.6%. No other QB in the league is making these plays at the rate Young is. This is from last week. I doubt his % dropped much with the dimes he was dropping to thielen.  He was pressured on 64% of his drop backs today and still had a respectable game. I wanted him gone as much as anyone on here but he's made vast improvements since he was benched.  He deserves to be the starter next year and we need him to continue to get better if we don't want to wait 5 years to be decent again.

Ah yes, the classic HOF metric of 'Big-time Throw Percentage'. Enshrine him now.

If they are keeping him around they'd better keep him in a state of competition. As it stands now he is perhaps a purgatory-level QB, one who can look solid when circumstances are perfect around him and who can not elevate those around him when they are not.

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27 minutes ago, toldozer said:

He deserves to be the starter next year and we need him to continue to get better if we don't want to wait 5 years to be decent again.

He may deserve an opportunity to start next year, but only after some real competition. 

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I'm happy for these guys that they found a system that works for them, whether it's the personnel or the scheme, it doesn't matter. We have what we have, deal with it or fug off somewhere else? I really don't understand the reasoning for placating to this kind of nonsense. Be happy for these guys in the picture, and be happy we aren't the Jets.

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8 hours ago, KSpan said:

We aren't winning because of him either. Gotta have that from a true franchise QB. Not every single game of course, but more often that not.

I feel like this take is entirely disingenuous based on the WAY we've lost many of the games since he's been back as the starter.

  • Bryce led a potential game winning drive in the 4th against the Chiefs scoring with under 2 minutes to go. Defense then let's Mahomes scramble for 30 yards into FG range for the game winner. Bryce did enough to win, Defense lost the game.
  • The very next week - Bryce throws a TD with 30 seconds left on the clock putting the team ahead 23-20. Defense then allows a FG to tie and send the game to OT. Bucs get the ball first in OT and miss their FG attempt. Bryce leads the team within FG range to win it and Chuba immediately fumbles the ball. Bucs go on to march down the field and kick a FG to win.
  • The very NEXT week - Punt pins us on our own 2 yard line and on 3rd down Bryce escapes a sack and safety to get the first on a pass to XL. Later on that drive he throws a deep dot to XL who drops the would be go ahead TD. Panthers lose.
  • Dallas - He was ass
  • AZ - good game all around, showed he could beat teams with his legs along with his arm. Stats weren't amazing, but the ground game was humming, and he still made some very good high level throws.

Bryce has absolutely done enough for us to win MULTIPLE games this year that we ended up losing.

Our defense is completely devoid of talent due to injuries and bad roster management over the past 5 years.

That's our biggest issue at the moment.

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30 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I feel like this take is entirely disingenuous based on the WAY we've lost many of the games since he's been back as the starter.

  • Bryce led a potential game winning drive in the 4th against the Chiefs scoring with under 2 minutes to go. Defense then let's Mahomes scramble for 30 yards into FG range for the game winner. Bryce did enough to win, Defense lost the game.
  • The very next week - Bryce throws a TD with 30 seconds left on the clock putting the team ahead 23-20. Defense then allows a FG to tie and send the game to OT. Bucs get the ball first in OT and miss their FG attempt. Bryce leads the team within FG range to win it and Chuba immediately fumbles the ball. Bucs go on to march down the field and kick a FG to win.
  • The very NEXT week - Punt pins us on our own 2 yard line and on 3rd down Bryce escapes a sack and safety to get the first on a pass to XL. Later on that drive he throws a deep dot to XL who drops the would be go ahead TD. Panthers lose.
  • Dallas - He was ass
  • AZ - good game all around, showed he could beat teams with his legs along with his arm. Stats weren't amazing, but the ground game was humming, and he still made some very good high level throws.

Bryce has absolutely done enough for us to win MULTIPLE games this year that we ended up losing.

Our defense is completely devoid of talent due to injuries and bad roster management over the past 5 years.

That's our biggest issue at the moment.

Too many drives stalling inside the 20 to say he/the offense did enough. That's the current reality. And I specifically said it doesn't need to be every game. 'Almost winning' isn't good enough - Mahomes, Allen, etc sure figure out ways to win those close games. need to see the ability to overcome that and win these types of games to get into that echelon of franchise QB. Not every time, but often enough.

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