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Just now, mav1234 said:

Yeah.  It's missing the context of his scrambling in the middle of defenders. I don't think it's fair to "slide" like that, and then for defenders that aren't even trying to hit him to barely graze him....

It's similar to the Kenny Pickett fake slide.  You can't allow QBs to do that, and you can't allow a QB to begin a slide when a tackler is already in the motion of hitting him.  It's too late at that point.

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1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Well, I won't say that the refs never have an impact.  But I think it is greatly overblown.

That being said, I do think with star players like Brady, Mahomes, Montana etc..., I do think there is a tendency to favor them, albeit subconciously.  I do remember many years ago when Tim Duncan played for Wake, Coach K was asked if Duncan got the calls from the Refs.  K said, yeap, and he deserves them.  

While I don't necessarily agree that a star deserves the calls, I do think there is an unconscious tendency towards favoritism.  Just human nature I suppose.    

Sure they’ve had some games where calls go more in their favor but also plenty of games where calls don’t go in their favor, just like all teams. I think there is a slight bias towards bigger markets (which KC is not) but otherwise it’s just random and refs not being good/consistent in general.

Specifically with roughing the passer, it’s just the reality these days that franchise QBs get those calls. The league is so offense/passing dependent these days for betting, fantasy, what your average fan wants, etc. that they are over the top with trying to keep those 1st/2nd tier QBs healthy. But this isn’t all that new at all. Brady, Manning, Big Ben, Brees, Rodgers, etc. have always gotten those calls too. And today it’s true for Lamar, Allen, Burrow, etc. In fact I saw a stat recently that Allen has benefitted more from penalties than Mahomes this year, and yet nobody talks about that — because it’s the Chiefs beating them all the time.

I can’t stand the modern NFL dependence on passing and protecting QBs/not letting teams play defense, but it’s the reality and it’s fair across the board. Well unless your QB is a scrub, but then you’re not winning anyways most likely. 

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Just now, PNW_PantherMan said:

It's similar to the Kenny Pickett fake slide.  You can't allow QBs to do that, and you can't allow a QB to begin a slide when a tackler is already in the motion of hitting him.  It's too late at that point.

At least you can't penalize if a defender is clearly easing up etc... just such bullshit to penalize players like that. Mahomes is clearly manipulating refs too (see the sideline slow up to try to draw a late hit penalty). He's an incredible QB and he wins regardless but it really annoys me.

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6 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

I still think the NFL has major favoritism. As long as they like BY9, we might be ok in Carolina

I watched maybe 6 or 7 Chiefs games during the regular season and they were ALL ridiculous biased in favour of KC. The Carolina game funny enough was the only one that I felt was actually fair overall.

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2 minutes ago, t96 said:

Sure they’ve had some games where calls go more in their favor but also plenty of games where calls don’t go in their favor, just like all teams. I think there is a slight bias towards bigger markets (which KC is not) but otherwise it’s just random and refs not being good/consistent in general.

Specifically with roughing the passer, it’s just the reality these days that franchise QBs get those calls. The league is so offense/passing dependent these days for betting, fantasy, what your average fan wants, etc. that they are over the top with trying to keep those 1st/2nd tier QBs healthy. But this isn’t all that new at all. Brady, Manning, Big Ben, Brees, Rodgers, etc. have always gotten those calls too. And today it’s true for Lamar, Allen, Burrow, etc. In fact I saw a stat recently that Allen has benefitted more from penalties than Mahomes this year, and yet nobody talks about that — because it’s the Chiefs beating them all the time.

I can’t stand the modern NFL dependence on passing and protecting QBs/not letting teams play defense, but it’s the reality and it’s fair across the board. Well unless your QB is a scrub, but then you’re not winning anyways most likely. 

I guess Cam was a scrub

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Just now, outlaw4 said:

Personally, once a QB gets past the line of scrimmage, they should only get the same protections any other player on offense would have.

I would take it a step further and say that should be true whenever they’re outside the pocket too. But will never happen.

 

 

 

Damn Washington!!

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