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Jackie Lee

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2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Joe Bradys offense cost the Bills the game. 

I think specifically, Joe Brady not figuring out the short yardage game.  I think the rest of it was fine.  KC clearly figured out the their short yardage play from the jump of that game.   Buffalo seemed so sure it was their own auto yard getter they had no adjustment in the back pocket. 

almost feel like playcallers should just have the national broadcast running.  Romo from the jump was like yep, KC figured that out on film and made adjustment. 

all that being said, I think the refs still tilted the final result to the KC more so than Brady costing them the game if I had to pick between the 2. 

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34 minutes ago, travisura said:

This was also the case for the vast majority of Brady's time with the Pats. When you're the face of the league, the calls go your way, no paying of refs required.

maybe its just an in the moment thing or better camera angles now so easier to see the terrible calls but I feel like Brady and the pats were always iffy calls and not every single game.  The chiefs I feel like the calls are blatantly bad calls that always go their way and always have a huge impact on the outcome of the game.  It could also just be in the current moment vs the past but I would love some website to do an analysis of not penalties called against each team but game changing penalties called that went far are against each team and directly impacted the final score.  Like the PI that keeps a drive going or the holding call that reverses a big scoring play.  Mainly it seems to be with the chiefs penalties that keep their drives going when otherwise they would stall.  

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54 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think specifically, Joe Brady not figuring out the short yardage game.  I think the rest of it was fine.  KC clearly figured out the their short yardage play from the jump of that game.   Buffalo seemed so sure it was their own auto yard getter they had no adjustment in the back pocket. 

almost feel like playcallers should just have the national broadcast running.  Romo from the jump was like yep, KC figured that out on film and made adjustment. 

all that being said, I think the refs still tilted the final result to the Bills more so than Brady costing them the game if I had to pick between the 2. 

The lack of play action was Buffalo's downfall. They were running all over the Chiefs for several drives, then the Chiefs adjusted and the Bills thought running it would just keep working. I didn't see a single play action play in the 2nd half, when it easily would've converted those 3rd and 4th and shorts that they got stuffed on. Also, on the final drive, they completely abandoned the run and called 4 straight passes, all telegraphed. 

 

Joe Brady really did a great job with the Bills' O all year, but man he fell flat on his face when it mattered most. That said, Reid and Spags have made a million coaches look stupid over the years, as much as some may want to blame McDermott/Brady, Andy and his crew are just better and there really aren't many (any?) who can keep up with them.

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Apologies if this was already brought up, but I just realized that the Bills-Chiefs game had the same score as SB 38. Like the Panthers, the Bills whiffed on two 2pt conversions. And like the Pats, the Chiefs converted on their only 2 pointer. And now I'm depressed, just from thinking about it. 

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6 minutes ago, djp14 said:

Apologies if this was already brought up, but I just realized that the Bills-Chiefs game had the same score as SB 38. Like the Panthers, the Bills whiffed on two 2pt conversions. And like the Pats, the Chiefs converted on their only 2 pointer. And now I'm depressed, just from thinking about it. 

 

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1 hour ago, djp14 said:

Apologies if this was already brought up, but I just realized that the Bills-Chiefs game had the same score as SB 38. Like the Panthers, the Bills whiffed on two 2pt conversions. And like the Pats, the Chiefs converted on their only 2 pointer. And now I'm depressed, just from thinking about it. 

Analytics is a hell of a drug.

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44 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Well you can count on Chiefs winning since there are multiple reports of Kelce and Swift wanting to get married. The NFL will make sure the Chiefs will win and then Kelce proposes on the podium.

You do realize that would be the NFL's worst nightmare, right?

If KC wins and 3-peats, that's major league history and sparks a sincere debate of Mahomes vs Brady for GOAT already.

If Kelce were to propose on the podium, it would be the only thing anyone is talking about, it would overshadow one of the biggest moments in NFL history.  Beyond the NFL not wanting that, Kelce is too good of a guy and teammate to do that to the rest of the Chiefs, he's not dumb, he'd know how much it would overshadow what they did on the field.

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49 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

You do realize that would be the NFL's worst nightmare, right?

If KC wins and 3-peats, that's major league history and sparks a sincere debate of Mahomes vs Brady for GOAT already.

If Kelce were to propose on the podium, it would be the only thing anyone is talking about, it would overshadow one of the biggest moments in NFL history.  Beyond the NFL not wanting that, Kelce is too good of a guy and teammate to do that to the rest of the Chiefs, he's not dumb, he'd know how much it would overshadow what they did on the field.

Brady`s spygate is overlooked, helping him to 3 Super Bowls. This wont hurt the Chiefs.

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5 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

Brady`s spygate is overlooked, helping him to 3 Super Bowls. This wont hurt the Chiefs.

I don’t mean from a history standpoint, but from an immediate news standpoint.

It would be a viral moment that would 100% take the immediate attention away from the 3-Peat, the league wouldn’t want it and Kelce wouldn’t do that to his teammates.

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3 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

I don’t mean from a history standpoint, but from an immediate news standpoint.

It would be a viral moment that would 100% take the immediate attention away from the 3-Peat, the league wouldn’t want it and Kelce wouldn’t do that to his teammates.

I also don't really get the feeling that's what he and Swift would want, either, and you're absolutely right he wouldn't want to take away from his teammates.

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14 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

You do realize that would be the NFL's worst nightmare, right?

If KC wins and 3-peats, that's major league history and sparks a sincere debate of Mahomes vs Brady for GOAT already.

If Kelce were to propose on the podium, it would be the only thing anyone is talking about, it would overshadow one of the biggest moments in NFL history.  Beyond the NFL not wanting that, Kelce is too good of a guy and teammate to do that to the rest of the Chiefs, he's not dumb, he'd know how much it would overshadow what they did on the field.

Personally I would love it. I have a parlay that KC wins the SB. TK wins MVP and he proposes to TS during the MVP presentation. I took it out at the beginning of the season. I swear they will let you bet on anything. 

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