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Denver NT DJ Jones. Potential FA target

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[Dan] Morgan was successful in shoring up the interior offensive line last season. This year he needs to throw money at the interior defensive line, among other spots. Most of last year’s acquisitions on defense had ties to Evero — some of whom played well, others not so much. If the Panthers go that route again, keep an eye

on Denver Broncos nose tackle D.J. Jones, who signed a three-year, $30 million deal in 2022 in Evero’s only season in Denver.

According to Pro Football Focus, Jones’ run stop rate ranked fourth among interior defensive linemen.

By comparison, the Panthers’ Shy Tuttle was 130th.

Jones, who had a sack on Josh Allen in the wild-card round, could be a nice fit between Brown and A’Shawn Robinson, though not at the price of his Broncos deal."

Joe Person, The Athletic

The Panthers can make a significant statement by adding a genuine nose tackle this season. They haven't had one throughout Evero's tenure for one reason or another. It's something fans have been clamoring for.

Shy Tuttle's manned the spot over the last two seasons. He never looked comfortable as the anchor and struggled to absorb blocks or hold his ground. That's a dangerous combination that opposing offensive lines had no trouble exploiting.

Jones' arrival would change all that. He's a stout force on the interior and immensely difficult to move off the block. He's also worked with Evero previously during their time together on the Denver Broncos. This familiarity makes him a lively candidate considering how many old players he's brought to Carolina.
 

 

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I wish we would just go back to the 4-3.  3-4 is just so dependent on that NT.   It's great when you got it, but when you don't......it's just rough sledding.  Easier to deal with injuries and fixes in the 4-3

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6 minutes ago, CRA said:

I wish we would just go back to the 4-3.  3-4 is just so dependent on that NT.   It's great when you got it, but when you don't......it's just rough sledding.  Easier to deal with injuries and fixes in the 4-3

It’s true that the 3/4 is dependent on a NT. 

But a 4/3 is dependent on DEs. The problem with that is the lack of true 4/3 DEs coming out of college. OLBs are so much easier find.

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17 minutes ago, CRA said:

I wish we would just go back to the 4-3.  3-4 is just so dependent on that NT.   It's great when you got it, but when you don't......it's just rough sledding.  Easier to deal with injuries and fixes in the 4-3

Thats true but I think its easier to find LB's in a 3-4 than it is to find DE's in a 4-3..

 

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Thats true but I think its easier to find LB's in a 3-4 than it is to find DE's in a 4-3..

 

well, I can't disagree with that part of the equation.   The 3-4 OLB is much easier to go find in today's football.  But I wonder how much of that is just the reality of so many NFL teams running the 3-4 looks and thus the 3-4 OLB gets the attention.  For a while the narrative was pass pass pass and countering with the blitz schemes to stop the pass.  So many of the "good" NFL teams this year....were defined by their ability to run the ball this year.  If NFL teams were pushing the 4-3 again would we actually see more better looking 4-3 DEs? I wonder about that. 

 

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It’s true that the 3/4 is dependent on a NT. 

But a 4/3 is dependent on DEs. The problem with that is the lack of true 4/3 DEs coming out of college. OLBs are so much easier find.

Ha we were on the same wave length. 

 

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well, I can't disagree with that part of the equation.   The 3-4 OLB is much easier to go find in today's football.  But I wonder how much of that is just the reality of so many NFL teams running the 3-4 looks and thus the 3-4 OLB gets the attention.  For a while the narrative was pass pass pass and countering with the blitz schemes to stop the pass.  So many of the "good" NFL teams this year....were defined by their ability to run the ball this year.  If NFL teams were pushing the 4-3 again would we actually see more better looking 4-3 DEs? I wonder about that. 

 

And its all about trends. This year was the year of the RB. So teams the beefed up the lines were having success. 

Previously is was all about speed speed speed. 

LB's used to be the most important position in football and now they are almost an after thought. 

I still remember the year of Double Trouble. The league was obsessed with 3-4 fast LB's and fast DT's. We loaded up on big OL guys, FB's and we pounded the rock. This was the one year that I felt like we were in front of the curve. 

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[Dan] Morgan was successful in shoring up the interior offensive line last season. This year he needs to throw money at the interior defensive line, among other spots. Most of last year’s acquisitions on defense had ties to Evero — some of whom played well, others not so much. If the Panthers go that route again, keep an eye

on Denver Broncos nose tackle D.J. Jones, who signed a three-year, $30 million deal in 2022 in Evero’s only season in Denver.

According to Pro Football Focus, Jones’ run stop rate ranked fourth among interior defensive linemen.

By comparison, the Panthers’ Shy Tuttle was 130th.

Jones, who had a sack on Josh Allen in the wild-card round, could be a nice fit between Brown and A’Shawn Robinson, though not at the price of his Broncos deal."

Joe Person, The Athletic

The Panthers can make a significant statement by adding a genuine nose tackle this season. They haven't had one throughout Evero's tenure for one reason or another. It's something fans have been clamoring for.

Shy Tuttle's manned the spot over the last two seasons. He never looked comfortable as the anchor and struggled to absorb blocks or hold his ground. That's a dangerous combination that opposing offensive lines had no trouble exploiting.

Jones' arrival would change all that. He's a stout force on the interior and immensely difficult to move off the block. He's also worked with Evero previously during their time together on the Denver Broncos. This familiarity makes him a lively candidate considering how many old players he's brought to Carolina.
 

 

yeah he stole the content from me.

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2 hours ago, CRA said:

I wish we would just go back to the 4-3.  3-4 is just so dependent on that NT.   It's great when you got it, but when you don't......it's just rough sledding.  Easier to deal with injuries and fixes in the 4-3

Agreed you lose your NT and your defense is cooked 

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2 hours ago, PanthersNCSU said:

Sign him and draft a guy too. Whatever makes Shy Tuttle only see the field a few snaps per game. 

I agree, but I have a different spin--Tuttle can free 6.5m as a post June 1 cut--I think the draft has a very nice selection of DTs in the first three rounds....

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