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JOE PERSON: the sense around league circles is Panthers will take Jalon Walker @8

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Typically, but honestly it's just an educated guess.  We desperately need defense and in most mocks he is the top rated defender available (especially if he is an edge).  As @mrcompletely11 has posted, Dan Morgan wasn't even at his workout.  We aren't telegraphing anything yet this year (like we did last year), because I just think we are going BPA or trade down and in most mocks Walker is BPA.  If Graham falls to our pick it will get interesting...

It isn't an educated guess though.  Only guy we did 3 visits with and only guy we've publicly slobbed on

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28 minutes ago, toldozer said:

It isn't an educated guess though.  Only guy we did 3 visits with and only guy we've publicly slobbed on

We also stated we are open to trading down so yeah any prospect they ask about will get hype as they good.  Just last week there was a report we loved Mykel Williams.  Again Morgan missed out on Walker's most recent workout as well.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Love how we're making it obvious that we'd love to trade down while at the same time trashing the value of our current draft position. Brilliant.

I wish the Panthers would at some point stop Panthering so much. LOL 

This is so weird it’s def a dam panther thing I’m so confused as to do we seem to have no secrecy or in-house type of Panther only info we should not hands down feel like we know exactly who we want. We seem to lock in on a player and like last year the decisions made in march instead of this week in April.

16 minutes ago, toldozer said:

It isn't an educated guess though.  Only guy we did 3 visits with and only guy we've publicly slobbed on

I was thinking the same thing and then we don’t show up to the pro day that’s confusing whether we want him or not NOT showing up is a sign of a player you don’t want.

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This is so weird it’s def a dam panther thing I’m so confused as to do we seem to have no secrecy or in-house type of Panther only info we should not hands down feel like we know exactly who we want. We seem to lock in on a player and like last year the decisions made in march instead of this week in April.

I was thinking the same thing and then we don’t show up to the pro day that’s confusing whether we want him or not NOT showing up is a sign of a player you don’t want.

you could also easily argue by not showing up to a top prospects "pro day" it could also mean we have seen enough especially since we have met with him numerous times already.  Whats he really going to show you?

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guess youz guyz missed this new hire.....

 

 

I vaguely remember hearing about this. Briefly perused a sub reddit about him. He worked for Pro Football Focus. And apparently he had some past takes about our starting QB. I don't know how much to value knowledge from guys like this who really aren't all that different from the average sports bettor in terms of insight. I guess maybe he can help?

https://www.reddit.com/r/panthers/comments/1cnfusn/person_panthers_plan_to_hire_sumersports_vp_eric/

 

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3 minutes ago, frankw said:

I vaguely remember hearing about this. Briefly perused a sub reddit about him. He worked for Pro Football Focus. And apparently he had some past takes about our starting QB. I don't know how much to value knowledge from guys like this who really aren't all that different from the average sports bettor in terms of insight. I guess maybe he can help?

https://www.reddit.com/r/panthers/comments/1cnfusn/person_panthers_plan_to_hire_sumersports_vp_eric/

 

He's in the building and I heard after one of Dave pressers reference Eric. He made dave some 3rd down models and success rate of certain play calls. The many details too much to list. 

You know Tepper is a analytics guru, he finally got one of the biggest NFL analytic brains in Eric. Will it = success ??? No clue, but you got to believe they are using his models. Best I recall Eric was a founding member of PFF and worked there for 4 or 5 years, then did consulting around 2022, and tepper gave him a huge bag and what ever job title he wanted. 

Personally I have never cared for PFF, its just like another forum members opinion. I do not follow the NFL like a hardcore fan and my opinion of PFF has changed some. If I don't have any clue on a player, using the PFF report is a ok start. 

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The problem is PFF contradicts itself saying he's best suited off ball then apparently as some are saying grading him higher as a pass rusher.

Though this guy wasn't there to be part of either side of Walker's PFF of analysis and was not, as someone stated, a founder.

 

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2 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Typically, but honestly it's just an educated guess.  We desperately need defense and in most mocks he is the top rated defender available (especially if he is an edge).  As @mrcompletely11 has posted, Dan Morgan wasn't even at his workout.  We aren't telegraphing anything yet this year (like we did last year), because I just think we are going BPA or trade down and in most mocks Walker is BPA.  If Graham falls to our pick it will get interesting...

We will see. All I will say is that in a draft projected to have so much potential for wild swings, it's odd that almost the entire draft sphere expects us to take Walker. 

Makes me believe we are being very obvious.....again.

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1 minute ago, kungfoodude said:

We will see. All I will say is that in a draft projected to have so much potential for wild swings, it's odd that almost the entire draft sphere expects us to take Walker. 

Makes me believe we are being very obvious.....again.

The only thing I know for sure that will happen is we will have a commercial break when we are on the clock. 

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48 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We will see. All I will say is that in a draft projected to have so much potential for wild swings, it's odd that almost the entire draft sphere expects us to take Walker. 

Makes me believe we are being very obvious.....again.

I feel like he is the obvious choice, assuming Graham is gone. BPA at a huge position of need. I’ve thought this before all the press conferences. 

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2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

you could also easily argue by not showing up to a top prospects "pro day" it could also mean we have seen enough especially since we have met with him numerous times already.  Whats he really going to show you?

Thats how i take it. They already know everything. A pro day a week before the draft isn't changing much. 

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2 hours ago, mrcompletely11 said:

you could also easily argue by not showing up to a top prospects "pro day" it could also mean we have seen enough especially since we have met with him numerous times already.  Whats he really going to show you?

Personally if I’m making a top 10 pick on a player, I’m spending as much time around him as allowed. I get what you are saying though. 

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