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Are the Panthers still coddling Bryce?


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Given the holes the team had, it wasn't really easy to bring in a decent development QB. They're putting a young QB in a tremendous position, so if Bryce crashes and burns this year... Well we'll be in a good position offensive wise to bring in a new one.

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3 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Given the holes the team had, it wasn't really easy to bring in a decent development QB. They're putting a young QB in a tremendous position, so if Bryce crashes and burns this year... Well we'll be in a good position offensive wise to bring in a new one.

Yeah, the good thing about committing to building around a young QB is that even if it doesn't work out you've built a strong foundation for the next guy to try to build on.

That's a helluva lot better than getting a Cam Newton then saying "well, that takes care of offense now we can spend all our resources on defense!"

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2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, the good thing about committing to building around a young QB is that even if it doesn't work out you've built a strong foundation for the next guy to try to build on.

That's a helluva lot better than getting a Cam Newton then saying "well, that takes care of offense now we can spend all our resources on defense!"

Yup. Gotta support the young QBs. A defense does help with that but the best thing to do is build a strong OL, and get them a young receiver or three to grow with. 

It does feel like there's more intelligent team building going on now... But some of that is just how Bryce is nowhere near the player Cam was, heh.

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9 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

Yup. Gotta support the young QBs. A defense does help with that but the best thing to do is build a strong OL, and get them a young receiver or three to grow with. 

It does feel like there's more intelligent team building going on now... But some of that is just how Bryce is nowhere near the player Cam was, heh.

That and the attempts to put pieces around Cam failing. We spent a 1st on KB and he flamed out after a promising start then a 2nd on Funchess and he just failed to launch. All the Cam detractors claiming he was the problem with receivers not working out, I just ask them to name all the receivers whose careers blossomed after they were able to escape having to play with Cam. Don't worry, I'll wait. LOL 

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I think we should have tried to iimprove our QB room. Dalton as a mentor is fine but I don't want him playing long term. We should always be trying to improve, even in the backup QB spot. 

I'm more concerned about the team than a year one particular player. Look at Purdy, Dak, and Brady. All young backup players that had success once they had an opportunity to injury. Players that started moving forward. Jimmy G was a backup that was traded for a 2nd. These are exceptions to the rule, but you'll never find the gem if you never look. 

We should be developing multiple QBs all the time. BY is the starter for now but should always feel pushed. I don't want the team to fall apart if BY suffers an injury. Next man up. 

Always try to improve the caliber of players on your team. 

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Yeah dude I am not going to play that game with you, Andy dalton was the worst qb in the nfl or close to it after the vegas.   If we cannot do better then that then whats the point?

And yet you can't name the backups who are better than him.

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They are treating him like an NFL starting QB. Like he's one of the 32 best QB's in the world. 

 

Let's be honest though, there's really only 3-5 great QB's in the NFL. Another handful of really good ones and then another handful that you can possibly win with. Does Bryce land in that middle group or the last one. 

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2 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

I think you have unrealistic expectations for a backup QB.

If he were younger this argument would hold water but he is honestly past his expiration date as a QB in this league.

We should be looking to develop a younger backup. And there's nothing wrong with that. Other successful franchises also do this. Because you never know what can happen.

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2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think they're committed to him but I think the coddling stopped with the benching.

I keep thinking this. Benching was the end of coddling. When he came back the little boy became a grown ass man.

Nothing but respect for what he did after coming back and nothing but excitement for what lies ahead.

Haters better get over it and doubters better start believing.

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No coddling,back up is fine until he has to play,and BY finally learned how to step up into pocket.  Line also seemed to look more coheasive .  BY,I hope becomes as acurate as Mrs Trepper thought he was.  7 years and no play off's is a long time Go Panthers!!!!!!!!!!!!

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3 hours ago, Jackson113.2 said:

Would've liked to seen some sort of competition brung in at Qb. Two decent games in 30 and they are acting like he's going to be lighting it up. 😉 

Instead of giving young guy confidence boost after stellar performance near end of the season, you want to kill his confidence by bringing his potential replacement?  Wow, talking about a disaster of a decision.

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1 hour ago, NAS said:

You do remember how he looked second half of last year right?  These clickbait Bryce hating posts are just idiotic. 

Dude led the league in big time throws after Week 8 throwing to freaking David Moore, Jalen Coker, butterfingers XL, and 100 year old Theilen and people here still want to trash him...

Seriously, why be a fan of this team??  Nobody is crowning him MVP but Bryce unequivocally proved he should go into this season as the starter.

Sometimes I genuinely wonder what some people look for in being a fan.

I've watched almost every snap in this franchises history, and this is the most excited I've been heading into a season since 2018.

This team on paper could be a Top 10 unit without hyperbole or exaggeration.

Who knows how well the defense will gel, but after years of borderline unwatchable offense, I'm signing up for this immediately.

The Bryce hate is pathetic at this point.

Literally everyone across the league who knows ball is excited to see what BY9 can do this season without the almost comical dysfunction he came the league into and you have goobers on here you have staked so much on Bryce sucking they just can't let it go...

 

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