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[NCBlu]

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1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

The two 0-16 teams in NFL history both went 4-0 in the preseason in the year they didn't win a game.

Preseason really means nothing

Thank you for stating reality. It doesn't always mean anything in here.

[kungfoodude]

9 hours ago, Icege said:

My current overreactions (and copium) before reviewing the All-22:

• LB is a huge problem. Not only is depth incredibly weak, we're depending on a second year Trevin Wallace. While having solid athletic traits, Trevin seems to be out of position more often than we'd want our starting ILB. There's also been errors in coverage as well, which was one of his strong points due to said athleticism.
  • Rams LB situation was to basically walk out ST LBs (ie: Rozeboom) and let them do what they can while the DL takes care of the run and the DBs handle coverage. LBs job might be asked to lurk and clean up this season. I'm going to have to go look at the 2023 season as well as Evero's 2022 season with Denver. Wallace does have the skillset though to be a solid blitzer if schemed up. Evero likes to use ILBs to supplement the pass rush sometimes, so having Moehrig/Wallace/Jaycee all able to blitz at any given moment will allow for more options to pressure with.
• Young weapons need to start stepping up. Having to depend on a rookie WR1, second year WR2 that was known to be a project, and a soon-to-be 35yr old WR3, Tremble coming back from back surgery, and an inconsistent Ja'Tavion Sanders isn't going to allow the offense to truly threaten through the air.
  • The WR room is deep with veteran slot guys, an exciting top-10 pick, a late first rounder, an exciting UDFA that is challenging for WR2, and the explosiveness of Jimmy Horn Jr gives a lot to be excited for. There's going to be some growing pains, but what's most important this season is TMac + XL's development + chemistry with Bryce. The real test is 2026 when it's time for Bryce to play for a second contract and Tillis has the roster set to be able to be reset should things not be going where they need to under Canales.
• While more comfortable looking, the team can't afford a slow start by Bryce. Going three-and-out on back-to-back opening drives (without all of the opponents' starters) is not giving guns blazing out the gate... and wtf was that atrocious throw today on the free play? Even if you know you've got a free shot that was bad. Also looked like he was already pressing early by not taking the open check down.
  • Can't catch it for em. That JT Sanders drop looked egregious, but I'll get a better idea of what happened when the All-22 comes out (as well as what the hell Bryce saw on the free play). TMac has also made more difficult catches than the one that came his way look simple, but he's clearly still catching up as a rookie. As the season is underway and more targets come his way we'll probably forget plays like that one. Bryce just has to keep trending up and helping his young weapons develop with him.
• The OL and the run game, the supposed strengths of the offense, have not looked strong. The OL has given up pressures, penalties, and hasn't been getting the push in the run game. As announcers and analysts have also pointed out, the team doesn't look like it's due to break off a big run any time soon.
  • That RB room is deep with Chuba, Dowdle, and Etienne. Etienne especially has looked like he's taken Blackshear's job on ST and the offense. The OL has also been somewhat protected this season, being pulled after just a series or two (and not playing against Pittsburgh on Thursday). DLew being out has also allowed for better evaluation of the OL to see if there's anybody that can make a case to carry 10 OL into the season
• The pass rush is still non-existent and relying on the duo of Wonnum/Jones II made sense in Minnesota when they were rotating for each other but not both starting. Derrick Brown is a presence, but he doesn't exactly rack up sacks. The team looks destined to be bottom-10 in pressure again.
  • It's a tough pill to swallow, but this season (pass rush-wise) is all about Scourton and Umanmielen's development. The sooner they threaten starting time, the better (see: Ransom/Richardson vs. Scott in the safety room, though Wonnum/Jones II are better starters than Nick). With Moehrig, Ransom, Horn, Jackson, and Wallace available to be sent on blitzes, Evero will be able to scheme up 1v1s and maybe even some open rushers. He's got the personnel where we don't have to worry about asking "is it cover-3 or is it fire zone?" Also, Evero's shown that he can scheme to buy time for the pass rush through confusing QBs with post-snap shifts. Combine that with confusing the OL with where they have to shift to deal with additional pressure, we'll hopefully see more sacks this season than we have the last two. Finally, DB played a single series. BB3 has already shown that he can make an impact as well. 

Wallace was another big project player that really shouldn't be getting this time at all. I don't think "trial by fire" seems to be working. Another pick I disliked because we sorely needed a player to start and be effective immediately not. Ravens-type guy that could be a special teamer/backup for a while on a deep ass roster.

The Panthers obsession with these type of guys while having some of the worst rosters in franchise history is really fuging infuriating.

Edited Sunday at 02:38 PM by kungfoodude

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

1 hour ago, tukafan21 said:

The two 0-16 teams in NFL history both went 4-0 in the preseason in the year they didn't win a game.

Preseason really means nothing

It means something in Carolina. Everytime the team looks like ass in the preseason, they usually aren’t good. I’m not talking about box scores as they are irrelevant, but I’m talking about moving the ball/getting stops 

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

It means something in Carolina. Everytime the team looks like ass in the preseason, they usually aren’t good. I’m not talking about box scores as they are irrelevant, but I’m talking about moving the ball/getting stops 

Record is largely irrelevant. It's about what the actual team looks like. In this case, through two games the starters have been a mixed bag and the reserves have been mostly very bad, with a few notable exceptions. 

I care very little about being 0-2 in a meaningless preseason but us looking below average to significantly below average almost across the board is just plain bad. It's likely an indication that we aren't likely to start the season strong. 

That would be bad because the early part of the schedule appears to be very easy on paper.

[mrcompletely11]

22 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

It means something in Carolina. Everytime the team looks like ass in the preseason, they usually aren’t good. I’m not talking about box scores as they are irrelevant, but I’m talking about moving the ball/getting stops 

Its a pointless exercise to try and explain this to them.  Its been done ad nauseam and they are either being willingly obtuse or simply cannot comprehend it.  

[Pejorative Miscreant]

34 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Record is largely irrelevant. It's about what the actual team looks like. In this case, through two games the starters have been a mixed bag and the reserves have been mostly very bad, with a few notable exceptions. 

I care very little about being 0-2 in a meaningless preseason but us looking below average to significantly below average almost across the board is just plain bad. It's likely an indication that we aren't likely to start the season strong. 

That would be bad because the early part of the schedule appears to be very easy on paper.

Agree. Record means very little if anything.  The play and performance is foreshadowing I fear. 

[ForJimmy]

2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

The two 0-16 teams in NFL history both went 4-0 in the preseason in the year they didn't win a game.

Preseason really means nothing

The Rams were winless in the preseason when they won the Super Bowl as well. I shared a Reddit post where they took a deep dive from 2022 (I think) and back to show there is no correlation between preseason record and regular season. It can be an indicator of depth which we already knew we had very little of. I would have still preferred the starters stay in yesterday until they found a little bit of rhythm. The reality is a lot of teams didn’t even play starters this past week as well. But us being a young team, starting off on the road it would have been smart to try to let the offense end on a high note IMO. 

[L-TownCat]

43 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Its a pointless exercise to try and explain this to them.  Its been done ad nauseam and they are either being willingly obtuse or simply cannot comprehend it.  

Eternal sunshine of the spotless minds.

[parker]

2 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

The two 0-16 teams in NFL history both went 4-0 in the preseason in the year they didn't win a game.

Preseason really means nothing

I'm not sure if it still stands.  The Jets once held the best preseason record. 

 

[Basbear]

Pre-season or not, the biggest issue for me is the 1 vs 1. Mainly on the lines, both lines have been getting handled like the Panthers dont have the highest cap hit or they didn't sign turk, brown, and Jones.

Doesn't matter 1st, 2nd, 3rd, even 4th string. Panthers players are losing to the man across from them. There are a couple rays of sunshine in Thor(who still gave up recs) and a couple prince plays.

 

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

If we had just kept Baker, we would be coming off back-to-back playoff runs 

Edited Sunday at 04:30 PM by Move the Panthers to Raleigh

[MHS831]

all we really know is that our depth has issues.  However, there have been too many dropped passes (TMac already has 2 or 3, sanders?  Don't let that ball hit you in the hands--Moore's fumble) and I thought our OL depth was better.  DL is not as stout as we hoped (based on a few plays) and LB is scary.  

Some are worried about CB--bartholomew has been terrible, but Thornton and Evans are pretty solid, from what we have seen. Horn, Jackson, Thornton, Smith Wade, Evans-- I am not as excited about Ransom as I was, and that is not fair for a fourth rounder.  He will be fine later, I hope.  The running game should be ahead of the passing game, and i have not seen it yet.  

I really liked what i saw from Brycen Tremayne both as WR and on special teams--watch him--long shot, but mid season, he could be a PS pull up.  Smart guy too. 

Interestingly, Kingston played center Saturday and did fairly well.  Stay tuned.

Finally, and this is the last I will say about it--we need a better color guy for preseason games--I liked Rucker back in the day, and Delhomme is fine.  But Smitty sucks.  

Oh, and it looks as though we have our kicker, via UDFA.  I think that battle is over.

 

[Proudiddy]

21 hours ago, Camp Fodder said:

There will be QBs cut that could come in and be QB 2 right away

But again, I keep saying it, Joe Milton and Shadeur were there for the taking late in the draft.  Now Milton might be taking over the job in Dallas if Dak falters.  Smh…

On the bright side, pretty much any QB cut will be better than who we have.