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Hot Takes Immediately After the Game


Admiral Ackbar
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2 hours ago, TN05 said:

Evero should have been fired in 2023, he should have been fired in 2024, and he should be fired today. 

Unpopular opinion, but he did a damn good job in 2023....no way he should have been fired after that year.

Last year he had a bunch of guys that didn't fit his system and the organization did nothing to fix that, it is debatable if he should be blamed or not.  I'll call it 66.33333333% org, 33.3333333333% Evero.

Again this season he has a bunch of guys that don't fit his system, the org didn't do anything to help him and he should have known that and adjusted his defense to the best of his ability.  It's my opinion Evero saw the writing on the wall and is just playing it out.....he'll be better off somewhere else anyways.

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14 minutes ago, MartyClemons said:

It pains me to say this but Morgan might need to go if some of these rookies don’t start flashing soon.

 

look at our 2023 draft class and then our 2024.  How many guys can we say are reliable starters? I didn’t love Scourton, Princely, or Etienne and felt Etienne was a reach. tho by doubling down pass rushers who fell in the draft I’m hopeful one pans out.

But even great coaches need talent… and we don’t have much on either side of the ball right now. 

he doesn't draft on football IQ, just goes with the biggest fastest guys with RAS scores, he's the EXACT same GM as fitt. We are cooked as long as he is here.

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2 hours ago, Admiral Ackbar said:

- This is the only game I will give Bryce a pass on. I still want to believe in him and a lot of teams opening week dont look good. But he made mistakes that impacted the game directly. Intereception turned into 7, fumbled ball missed on a field goal opportunity, underthrown ball to Renfrow was a easy 7 but had to settle for FG. 4 and Goal throw away??? What was that..

- I dont care what anyone says at this point, Wallace is not the answer at LB and Rozeboom is an unathetlic depth ILB at best.

- Moehrig had a lot of tackles, but I saw him out of position a lot and missed tackles in key spots. Not a good first impression for me

- Chubba is are best and most consistent player, again. He deserved his money

- McMillan is a #1

- We cant stop the run

- We have ZERO pass rush

- Evero needs to go!!

- Legette is still incredibly raw..

Seemes bryce young directly cost the panthers the game today.  His turnovers missed connections poor decisions was the difference.  Neither qb played well one just limited mistakes.

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52 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

No he wouldn't. He struggles to do the most simple poo any NFL WR should know. In Game 1, TMac was far more impressive than the entirety of XL's NFL career. 

It's because XL doesn't do anything well at all. Well, not on the football field, for sure.

XL may be a great athlete, but he is no scholar.

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1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

I'm not sure there's a QB in the league who makes games more unwinnable than Bryce when he plays bad. There's just no way to win a game when Bryce is playing like this.

And I'm not sure there's a QB who's had more of them. 

And not just full games. Think how often Bryce just vanishes for the entire half, or three quarters. You can't cannot win football games like this. 

When bryce is playing bad which is 90% of the time he is on the field he could be surrounded by all probowl level players and the panthers would still loose he alone can make it and does make it impossible for the panthers to win games

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Overreactions:

-XL is the reason why we drafted TMac; I think our staff knows XL's not starting WR material

-Adam Thielen wanted to go back to Minnesota because he saw a good opportunity to leave this dump

-Wharton flashed a lot before his hamstring problem, Derrick Brown looked good too; D-line looked good overall

- LBs are TERRIBLE and I honestly don't know what were thinking going into the season with this lineup

-Nick Scott will become the new Ian Thomas

-I think everybody knows Bryce can't make it in this league.  

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I turned the game off and took a nap at the start of the weather delay.  After that first INT I knew it was over.  I woke up around 4 or something, turned the game back on, was not surprised in the slightest, and then turned it back off.

We're the Browns or Lions of the 2000s now.  Multiple double digit loss seasons in a row.  Haven't sniffed the playoffs in ages.  Constantly cycling coaching staffs, QBs, and FO personnel, but always being fuging terrible.  Maybe a couple of players on the roster are decent in isolation, but being competitive or even watchable just feels like an impossible pipe dream.

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